Comments on: Synastry Studies: The M.C./I.C. (Part One)

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:26:57 +0000

When there are angle/angle contacts in a synastry, it’s a powerful thing, and it almost doesn’t matter which end plugs in where. Remember that you have two ‘external’ halves to the angles, the Asc and the MC (I call them the visible angles) and the internalized ones, the IC and the DESC. We self-actualize through our first and 10th houses and process internal experience via the IC and DESC. (Not that nothing exterior happens in those houses–they do–but they are more about consciousness and integration.) So when one person’s ‘exterior’ angle opposes another’s interior one, it can be both highly stimulating and irritating. The impetus to growth and integration is very deeply felt, and any transits or progressions to any of these angles is going to affect them both. This can be for the good or the bad, but they need to understand that any perspective on angle contacts will most likely have to come from the outside world, as they are both too caught up in the situation to see it clearly. There also may be an intense attraction that is sometimes followed by a strange lack of understanding, which is something they will need to adjust to. They must stay away from making assumptions that the other will just coast along with anything that is said or planned.

By: Erzebet

Erzebet — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:10:09 +0000

Hi. I’m aware this is an older post, but after many hours of searching this is the only place I’ve found discussing IC/MC aspects to each other–on the net, in books, anywhere! So far you seem to be the only person who might be able to help answer my question.
I’m working on a synastry reading for some friends who have a very odd set of aspects. Her ASC conjuncts his IC, which of course means her DSC conjuncts his MC. What’s more, his ASC opposes her IC meaning his DSC opposes her MC. The aspects are near perfect in all cases. These are clearly factors that should be considered, but as I said, there is absolutely nothing out there to suggest any interpretation.
Do you have any thoughts you can share about this?

By: alcuin9

alcuin9 — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:22:17 +0000

Thank you, SaDiablo. I’m glad you’re enjoying the site. Please feel free to ask questions, if they come up.

By: SaDiablo

SaDiablo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:43:26 +0000

I came here via AstroDispatch and I am so very glad I did! I’ve read three of your synastry posts so far and all of them have given me something to think about. Thank you so much!

What you say here about people who have a lot of planets in your fourth, that’s a missing piece I’ve been looking for during the past year. Now I just have to snap it into place and I’m that much closer to understanding. Yes!

By: alcuin9

alcuin9 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:22:34 +0000

Coincidentally, I’m going to be going into both your questions in more detail in tomorrow’s synastry article, which looks at Saturn’s neglected role as the Moon’s partner.

The Sun does have a natural partner with Earth, but that archetype follows a different line: sky god and earth goddess, spirit versus matter. This archetype is more like yin and yang. This is my personal opinion, but I believe this archetype is more about energy. Whereas both the Moon and Saturn are very personal, very much about incarnation and our physical existence here, our actual lives. The Earth is at the polarity point of the Sun, and may provide opportunity for the solar energy to manifest, but I don’t believe we identify with it psychologically the way we do with the Moon. The Earth doesn’t carry a house; though it has a place opposite the Sun, its influence is diffused throughout the houses. Wherever we find our Sun or our Leo house is the place of our inspiration, where we shine. The Earth point may be a place where we can ground that inspiration, but I haven’t done enough research to say for certain.

By: Don Musser

Don Musser — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:00:02 +0000

in your last paragraph here – you seem to be hinting at the massive disconnect between the values of Saturn and the MC and those of the Moon and the IC – that is the current reality in modern industrialized cultures. those values of accomplishment and ambition in outer external reality have become so inflated as to castrate us from the opposite values of nourishment, connection, and rootedness in the Earth and with others. when i look at Saturn in a natal chart now – i’m asking myself how its requirements are a piece of structure that soul needs for its evolution and embodiment within the inner world of the individual.

i also wanted to ask if you note a parallel relationship between the MC and IC and the Sun and its opposite point – the Earth ? does the Earth is a chart provide a similiar source of sustenance, fulfillment, and rootedness as the IC ?