I love your article! It really sheds new light on Saturn and in some ways, taught me to even appreciate some of what Saturn offers. Quick question: Usually, how many Saturn interaspects does a relationship need for it to be binding and long-lasting? I’m a bit concerned because my SO and I only have: his saturn conj. my mars (6 degrees), my saturn opp. his venus (2 degrees). Our Saturns both contact each other’s MC. Thanks!

Love your BLOG. I’ve been doing LOTS of research on “Saturn in Synastry”.

My SATURN conjuncts JUPITER (exact) in Libra – not to mention- BOTH planets CONJUNCT my ASCENDANT (LIBRA RISING)…add BML…Black Moon Lilith…you will find me being VERY controled in pulic MOST of the time. Yet, I have the ability to be very outgoing & center of attention.

Also, people have described me as having a BIG personality although I am a PISCES (sun, venus, mars).

Saturn is in EXALTATION in LIBRA, right? I’ve also been told that “DATING” is my BUSINESS or should be lol. I’m not the mos beautiful woman in the world. However, I have a natural CHARM & DIGNITY that attracts men – especially OLDER, wealthy men…I am from New York City, so it is very common for OLDER men of STATUS to date much younger women who are not as wealthy. Although, I do not consider myself a gold digger in fact, I really have no interest in marriage.

I do want to DISCUSS a recent relationship that started out as HOT, mutual attraction then turned into more of a BUSINESS arrangement.

He is not wealthy. However, he is a little older. We met in a public place. There was definitely a sudden ATTRACTION between us. It was also as if there was tension & even hatred. Throw in some sexual frustration – thank you SATURN.

The problem was – I was the SATURN person (younger) AND he (older) was the Venus, mars, mercury, pluto, JUNO person – thats right 5 planets CONJUNCT my LIBRA RISING/SATURN/JUPITER/BML.

When we were together, you could cut the TENSION with a knife. We argued in public OFTEN. Yet in private, we were very sexually. IRONICALLY, we ONLY talked about having SEX (what we would DO to each other). This went on for over a month until I threw in the towel (it was too frustrating for me & I’m too young to get attached to one man who probably doesnt really care about me anyways).

It felt like a CONSTANT power struggle b/t us. I’ve NEVER experienced such a POWERFUL push/pull with a man. I never felt attractive to him even though every other man we knew flirted with me & still does – right in front of him. He never seemed to care or get jealous. That always baffled me,,,perhaps he FELT the SATURN effect (distance/coolness).

Initially, I was so happy to see all his planets CONJUNCT my rising sign UNTIL I noticed SATURN sitting right there….JUPITER at least, added a bit if HUMOR & LIGHT HEARTEDNESS to our interaction. UNFORTUNATELY, it seems that SATURN sealed our FATE.

I am still very intrigued/attracted to him for reasons unknown. Typically he is NOT my type at all…I also catch him staring at me intensely when he thinks I am not looking. Its strange…could SATURN really be the CULPRIT to all this?

Truth be told I even fantasize about us have angry make up sex even though, again, we never consummated our ATTRACTION. Its weird, I always felt insecure around him even when he claimed to be very interested in me & compliment my appearance, I never believed him…SATURN is a tricky old man lol.

Thanks for reading my ramblings. Hope you can help me make sense of this situation~ xx

My natal chart is a such that I feel I’ve been learning and trying to master the energy of outer planets forever. I have Fixed Grand Cross which is consisted by: Sun/Leo conj.NN opposing Saturn Retro/Aquarius conj. SN; the Saturn EXACTLY squre Moon/Taurus, which the oppsing end is Neptune conj. Vertix/Scopio.

Together with Mutable T-Square of Venus conj. Pluto in 4th opposing Jupiter conj. Chiron in 10th, both squaring Mars, and Uranus exactly conj. IC, “close relationships” has been an Enigma for me, an objection of yearning to be accepted and fulfilled, and at the same time repel from the closeness.

I’ve met this person, whom I really didn’t pay too much attention at first but now intrigues me a lot—13 years junior and his Saturn conj. my Sun and oppose my Saturn. I would run away from him fast if I was in my 20′s. But the beauty of aging and Saturn is that it really encourages you, sometimes force you, to let go all the unnecessary things/ideas and leave you with what truly matters and meaningful to you. And enormous feeling of true accomplishment, that is a freedom from fear.

I don’t know how it will turn out with this person, but I almost feel, “Saturn? Great!” What you say in the article really sums up a grace of this planet can offer.

Yes, we would be looking mainly at Ptolemaics; I wouldn’t count the semi-sextile as, as you say, it operates beyond the conscious. I do include the semi-square, however. Semi-squares have the grounding quality of the four family, and divide the circle evenly.

When Saturn is unaspected, in Leo, it can be a dictator or flip and have a very laissez-faire attitude to eveything, particularly when its own interests are concerned. If Saturn can learn to be the servant of the Sun, and in turn give the Sun structure, it will be very effective in its house. There is a real need to ground creativity and make something real of the creative impulses.

Thank you for your reply. Saturn may not completely unaspected. What I meant by that term was that Saturn doesn’t receive any Ptolemaic aspects from any other planet. However, if Saturn receives a semisextile, say from Venus, wouldn’t that still count as unaspected? Reading your article on the semisextile, semisextiles work when you aren’t looking, isn’t that true?

Again thank you Dawn for your insights!

This is a complicated question. Unaspected planets behave can behave in an exaggerated manner–they can be wild and unpredictable because they have nothing else to anchor them, and they can take over a chart. They’re a bit like crazy conjunctions, can dominate or be absolutely ignored, or swing back and forth between the two modes. Are you sure Saturn is unaspected? A true unaspected planet is quite rare.

Yes, the dispositor of Saturn will tell you more about where the Saturn energy is going, and where it’s being tested. So will the ruler of the house Saturn resides in. You can also look at the 10th house, which Saturn naturally rules.