Comments on: The Twelfth House, Four Leaf Clovers and The New Backlash http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash Astrology with Dawn Bodrogi Wed, 01 May 2013 16:56:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-2797 Dawn Bodrogi Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:18:08 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-2797 Colhic, dear, you don't have a clue about my circle. I'm surprised you can take umbrage at such tiny little dig. I have a perfect right to occasionally voice a personal opinion on my own site. If you think the article was about politics, you need to read it again. Colhic, dear, you don’t have a clue about my circle. I’m surprised you can take umbrage at such tiny little dig. I have a perfect right to occasionally voice a personal opinion on my own site. If you think the article was about politics, you need to read it again.

]]> By: collhic http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-2796 collhic Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:23:10 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-2796 Dawn, dear, Much as it is fashionable to bash "Republicans" in your circle, it just comes across as nasty, trite, & petty, particularly in an article that purports to delve into something so nuanced & nebulous as mankind's basic belief system. Don't forget it was the Reagans, the Republicans of Republicans, who helped put astrology on the map for the masses. Dawn, dear,

Much as it is fashionable to bash “Republicans” in your circle, it just comes across as nasty, trite, & petty, particularly in an article that purports to delve into something so nuanced & nebulous as mankind’s basic belief system.

Don’t forget it was the Reagans, the Republicans of Republicans, who helped put astrology on the map for the masses.

]]> By: The Measurers versus The Metaphysicians « The Inner Wheel http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-158 The Measurers versus The Metaphysicians « The Inner Wheel Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:18:48 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-158 [...] it were socially acceptable.  (Sadly, astrology-bashing IS socially acceptable. See my piece on The New Backlash.) It is getting more socially acceptable, in this post-9/11 age.  The new acceptable trend is to [...] [...] it were socially acceptable.  (Sadly, astrology-bashing IS socially acceptable. See my piece on The New Backlash.) It is getting more socially acceptable, in this post-9/11 age.  The new acceptable trend is to [...]

]]> By: alcuin9 http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-157 alcuin9 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:13:12 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-157 Thanks for the kind words. I hope you're right about Uranus/Pluto--perhaps the Jupiter conjunction to Uranus will nudge the collective along the road to wisdom. Let's hope the Aquarian Age brings some positive manifestations for astrology. (However, if you want to read about some of the negative manifestations of the age, take a look at my piece "The Dank Underbelly of the Aquarian Age".) Thanks for the kind words. I hope you’re right about Uranus/Pluto–perhaps the Jupiter conjunction to Uranus will nudge the collective along the road to wisdom. Let’s hope the Aquarian Age brings some positive manifestations for astrology. (However, if you want to read about some of the negative manifestations of the age, take a look at my piece “The Dank Underbelly of the Aquarian Age”.)

]]> By: wizron http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-156 wizron Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:12:19 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-156 Excellent piece of writing Dawn. The collective ego and collective beliefs are strong forces to contend with when it comes to promoting something 'alternative' to the collective, ego-structured norm. Astrology is somewhat of a 'wounded' art form. That's why I link it to Chiron as well as Uranus. After all, Chiron also taught astrology to the young gods. It is a shame the way most people dismiss this wonderful art form, usually from a place of having very little personal knowledge of the subject. But here is the good news: "The Times, They are a' Changin'! " There is an ebb and flow in life, and a trough forms just before a new wave comes in. Astrology became powerful and widespread during the 60's under the Uranus- Pluto conjunction, with a beautiful afterglow that lasted for many years (I believe that the date set for Woodstock was chosen on the basis of astrological knowledge). Pluto INTENSIFIES any planet that it comes in contact with, (just as Jupiter AMPLIFIES any planet it touches), and astrology was brought into the mass consciousness courtesy of Pluto. And, with Uranus about to move into Aries, the current Uranus- Pluto square will start to intensify because Uranus is squaring Pluto BY SIGN, from Aries to Capricorn. (Sorry I keep 'shouting', but I can't find the italics button:-)) This rapidly forming Uranus-Pluto square (in my not so humble opinion) indicates that astrology will re-emerge most powerfully over the next 5 years and beyond (after all, it IS the Age of Aquarius). Nice comparison between the 9th and 12th houses Dawn. The beauty of astrology is that it is still in the domain of Jupiter - an open truth philosophy of sorts. Under the mantle of Neptune it would be a religious conviction that is believed in blindly, which would be a shame. This is the good thing about people now wanting to know (Aquarius) instead of just believe (Pisces). Excellent piece of writing Dawn. The collective ego and collective beliefs are strong forces to contend with when it comes to promoting something ‘alternative’ to the collective, ego-structured norm. Astrology is somewhat of a ‘wounded’ art form. That’s why I link it to Chiron as well as Uranus. After all, Chiron also taught astrology to the young gods. It is a shame the way most people dismiss this wonderful art form, usually from a place of having very little personal knowledge of the subject. But here is the good news: “The Times, They are a’ Changin’! ”

There is an ebb and flow in life, and a trough forms just before a new wave comes in. Astrology became powerful and widespread during the 60′s under the Uranus- Pluto conjunction, with a beautiful afterglow that lasted for many years (I believe that the date set for Woodstock was chosen on the basis of astrological knowledge).

Pluto INTENSIFIES any planet that it comes in contact with, (just as Jupiter AMPLIFIES any planet it touches), and astrology was brought into the mass consciousness courtesy of Pluto. And, with Uranus about to move into Aries, the current Uranus- Pluto square will start to intensify because Uranus is squaring Pluto BY SIGN, from Aries to Capricorn. (Sorry I keep ‘shouting’, but I can’t find the italics button:-)) This rapidly forming Uranus-Pluto square (in my not so humble opinion) indicates that astrology will re-emerge most powerfully over the next 5 years and beyond (after all, it IS the Age of Aquarius).

Nice comparison between the 9th and 12th houses Dawn. The beauty of astrology is that it is still in the domain of Jupiter – an open truth philosophy of sorts. Under the mantle of Neptune it would be a religious conviction that is believed in blindly, which would be a shame. This is the good thing about people now wanting to know (Aquarius) instead of just believe (Pisces).

]]> By: Featured Book: Jupiter Meets Uranus by Anne Whitaker « The Inner Wheel http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-155 Featured Book: Jupiter Meets Uranus by Anne Whitaker « The Inner Wheel Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:02:30 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-155 [...] astrology itself is having a bit of a struggle now, and is suffering the backlash brought about from our society’s extended exposure to all sorts of fundamentalism (I’m [...] [...] astrology itself is having a bit of a struggle now, and is suffering the backlash brought about from our society’s extended exposure to all sorts of fundamentalism (I’m [...]

]]> By: Lory http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-154 Lory Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:19:02 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-154 Hi Dawn, I found your site by accident, but I'm so glad I did. I loved this article and I confess that I fully agree with you. Astrology has helped me so much in the past years to understand myself and people around me that now I am quite addicted to it. I read several articles on this site and I want to congratulate you! You are really a talented astrologer and writer. I will visit frequently this site from now on. You are right, people really don't show a lot of interest iin astrology these days, but it's funny because all the people I know suddenly change their attitude a little when I try to read their charts for fun. When they see that I actually come up with good information they are surprised most of the time and I'm glad to see that, but they don't really show any real interest in it afterwards. It's ok with me, because they don't really know what they're missing anyway, just my humble opinion! Keep up the good work. Best wishes from Romania! Hi Dawn,
I found your site by accident, but I’m so glad I did. I loved this article and I confess that I fully agree with you. Astrology has helped me so much in the past years to understand myself and people around me that now I am quite addicted to it.
I read several articles on this site and I want to congratulate you! You are really a talented astrologer and writer. I will visit frequently this site from now on.

You are right, people really don’t show a lot of interest iin astrology these days, but it’s funny because all the people I know suddenly change their attitude a little when I try to read their charts for fun. When they see that I actually come up with good information they are surprised most of the time and I’m glad to see that, but they don’t really show any real interest in it afterwards. It’s ok with me, because they don’t really know what they’re missing anyway, just my humble opinion!

Keep up the good work. Best wishes from Romania!

]]> By: Sarah Evanson-Isaac http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-153 Sarah Evanson-Isaac Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:56:04 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-153 I just found your blog today and I've been eagerly reading your thoughts on dispositors and much more. Thank you for making what you've observed available to those of us who are just starting on this journey. I've been thinking about taking the plunge into being a professional astrologer after finding astrology absolutely absorbing since I was 10 or 11. There were many years when I wouldn't share my knowledge or experience with others because I feared their judgment, but now I take many more opportunities to describe different applications for astrology and schools of thought, how intricate and precise astrology can be. Hopefully, I demonstrate that rational, insightful people can subscribe to this ancient art and science (LOL!), and the more often people admit to their practice, the more often people will get to see that astrology has nothing to do with superstition. I just found your blog today and I’ve been eagerly reading your thoughts on dispositors and much more. Thank you for making what you’ve observed available to those of us who are just starting on this journey. I’ve been thinking about taking the plunge into being a professional astrologer after finding astrology absolutely absorbing since I was 10 or 11. There were many years when I wouldn’t share my knowledge or experience with others because I feared their judgment, but now I take many more opportunities to describe different applications for astrology and schools of thought, how intricate and precise astrology can be. Hopefully, I demonstrate that rational, insightful people can subscribe to this ancient art and science (LOL!), and the more often people admit to their practice, the more often people will get to see that astrology has nothing to do with superstition.

]]> By: Forest http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-152 Forest Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:31:37 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-152 Well expressed. I've thought for some time that the sort of scientific belief you describe is another kind of fundamentalism, tending toward a rigid, reductive, exclusionary and curiously righteous mindset. Fundamentalism seems rampant at present, and this might be one of the least recognized branches of that plant. Well expressed. I’ve thought for some time that the sort of scientific belief you describe is another kind of fundamentalism, tending toward a rigid, reductive, exclusionary and curiously righteous mindset. Fundamentalism seems rampant at present, and this might be one of the least recognized branches of that plant.

]]> By: annewhitaker http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/12/the-twelfth-house-four-leaf-clovers-and-the-new-backlash/#comment-151 annewhitaker Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:51:57 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=601#comment-151 Hi Dawn I've just returned to read this post again. It is a terrific piece of writing, making the differences between belief and the practical empiricism of constructing models for mapping the cosmos incisively clear. Thank you. ps will reply to your email when my server lets me back on! Anne Hi Dawn

I’ve just returned to read this post again. It is a terrific piece of writing, making the differences between belief and the practical empiricism of constructing models for mapping the cosmos incisively clear. Thank you.

ps will reply to your email when my server lets me back on!

Anne

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