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	<title>Comments on: Synastry Studies:   Oppositions, Hand in Hand</title>
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		<title>By: Lina</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/03/synastry-studies-oppositions-hand-in-hand/#comment-5199</link>
		<dc:creator>Lina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a very good point.

Me and my partner are completely opposite and is exactly with cancer and capricorn like you gave examples.

He is sun, venus, mercury and MC in Cancer.

I am moon, venus, jupiter and MC in Capricorn.

Our Mars are also opposed, his is in leo, mine in aquarius.

Our ascendants are opposed too exactly.

And my ascendant is conjunct his north node and moon and jupiter. 

So you have a very good point. I have this flashbacks with him where I know things even before he tells me. I know he was the one even before we met personally. I even guessed the day of his birthday when was his birthday.

But we are very different. Very. But is complementary; sometimes we butt heads strongly, but after some hours we forgive and try to meet halfway.
We mostly help each other in areas we lack so much we wouldn&#039;t be able to see if we were alone, simply because we lack that vision, we cant see it, and that could make our lives poorer and unhappier. I could end up alone, a control freak, without a partner, without family, without knowing what home is and old, without spiritual vision. Mathematical and without emotions, maybe even ending depressed in old age.
He could lose his house because he forget about practical details, about saving, about common sense on financial and practical matters. Never progressing in career because of being too afraid to change or try to advance and end up being a stay at home dad, but frustrated and depending on someone else. Or not having someone to talk too because of wanting to hide in his hermit shell (he even thought of being single forever as an option, before we met).
So, I think is something very good. And sometimes, with people with conjunctions is too strong. Too much of the same thing and although I feel understood, it tires quickly and makes you feel annoyed in the long run. They are best as friends, but lovers I don&#039;t know. Even the concept of female and male. Is an opposition in its essence. Men are square usually, women are full of curves, and so on.So in love I think oppositions (but depending on which planets) can be very rewarding but also a testing path along the way. Kudos for your perceptions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a very good point.</p>
<p>Me and my partner are completely opposite and is exactly with cancer and capricorn like you gave examples.</p>
<p>He is sun, venus, mercury and MC in Cancer.</p>
<p>I am moon, venus, jupiter and MC in Capricorn.</p>
<p>Our Mars are also opposed, his is in leo, mine in aquarius.</p>
<p>Our ascendants are opposed too exactly.</p>
<p>And my ascendant is conjunct his north node and moon and jupiter. </p>
<p>So you have a very good point. I have this flashbacks with him where I know things even before he tells me. I know he was the one even before we met personally. I even guessed the day of his birthday when was his birthday.</p>
<p>But we are very different. Very. But is complementary; sometimes we butt heads strongly, but after some hours we forgive and try to meet halfway.<br />
We mostly help each other in areas we lack so much we wouldn&#8217;t be able to see if we were alone, simply because we lack that vision, we cant see it, and that could make our lives poorer and unhappier. I could end up alone, a control freak, without a partner, without family, without knowing what home is and old, without spiritual vision. Mathematical and without emotions, maybe even ending depressed in old age.<br />
He could lose his house because he forget about practical details, about saving, about common sense on financial and practical matters. Never progressing in career because of being too afraid to change or try to advance and end up being a stay at home dad, but frustrated and depending on someone else. Or not having someone to talk too because of wanting to hide in his hermit shell (he even thought of being single forever as an option, before we met).<br />
So, I think is something very good. And sometimes, with people with conjunctions is too strong. Too much of the same thing and although I feel understood, it tires quickly and makes you feel annoyed in the long run. They are best as friends, but lovers I don&#8217;t know. Even the concept of female and male. Is an opposition in its essence. Men are square usually, women are full of curves, and so on.So in love I think oppositions (but depending on which planets) can be very rewarding but also a testing path along the way. Kudos for your perceptions!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Bodrogi</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/03/synastry-studies-oppositions-hand-in-hand/#comment-3292</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Bodrogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the Sun in Leo opposite Saturn in Aquarius, you have a battle of the Titans--the Sun in its own sign versus Saturn in a sign it co-rules.  It emphasizes the basic conflict of the polarity--the individual versus the collective.  What is good for me comes in direct conflict with what is good for everyone.  Because Saturn involves lessons we must learn and practical things we must do in life, in this case our lessons involve the collective--how do I learn to use my creativity, generosity and light to benefit others?  How do I move from being self-involved to doing that is best for all?  We may have fears about being swallowed up by the group and losing our individuality.  We may disassociate ourselves by declaring ourselves too unique to be involved with others--Aquarius is known for being elitist, when it isn&#039;t working properly.  We may not really want to get our hands dirty to join in with the rest of humanity.  Of course, the house positions will be extremely important, but on the whole this Leo Sun needs to learn to incorporate others and to be aware of the creative contribution of others to the whole.  It also needs to learn to take responsibility for others, to be the wise ruler rather than the indulgent king.  One for all and all for one should be the mantra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the Sun in Leo opposite Saturn in Aquarius, you have a battle of the Titans&#8211;the Sun in its own sign versus Saturn in a sign it co-rules.  It emphasizes the basic conflict of the polarity&#8211;the individual versus the collective.  What is good for me comes in direct conflict with what is good for everyone.  Because Saturn involves lessons we must learn and practical things we must do in life, in this case our lessons involve the collective&#8211;how do I learn to use my creativity, generosity and light to benefit others?  How do I move from being self-involved to doing that is best for all?  We may have fears about being swallowed up by the group and losing our individuality.  We may disassociate ourselves by declaring ourselves too unique to be involved with others&#8211;Aquarius is known for being elitist, when it isn&#8217;t working properly.  We may not really want to get our hands dirty to join in with the rest of humanity.  Of course, the house positions will be extremely important, but on the whole this Leo Sun needs to learn to incorporate others and to be aware of the creative contribution of others to the whole.  It also needs to learn to take responsibility for others, to be the wise ruler rather than the indulgent king.  One for all and all for one should be the mantra.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/03/synastry-studies-oppositions-hand-in-hand/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn,
 
I have found oppositions to be very interesting in people too! I had a roommate who found it so difficult to share her things. when I looked at her chart I saw that she had inner planets in 2nd opposite Outer planets in 8th.


What should one know about a Leo Sun opposite Aquarius Saturn? ( It&#039;s a lone angular opposition with no squares, trines, sextiles to it- ease, negotiating aspects that is.)In this case what is it that has to be reconciled?

 Most astrology sites name the result of having aspects between planets( in this case- loser, negative, critical) not the process itself that undergoes so that one can come up with the positive and negative results themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn,</p>
<p>I have found oppositions to be very interesting in people too! I had a roommate who found it so difficult to share her things. when I looked at her chart I saw that she had inner planets in 2nd opposite Outer planets in 8th.</p>
<p>What should one know about a Leo Sun opposite Aquarius Saturn? ( It&#8217;s a lone angular opposition with no squares, trines, sextiles to it- ease, negotiating aspects that is.)In this case what is it that has to be reconciled?</p>
<p> Most astrology sites name the result of having aspects between planets( in this case- loser, negative, critical) not the process itself that undergoes so that one can come up with the positive and negative results themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/03/synastry-studies-oppositions-hand-in-hand/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>alcuin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of these higher octaves is a generally accepted one in astrology.  However, as far as I can tell, they have no basis in hard geometry or numerical sequence, and in some circles these relational octaves are contested.  Not everything in astrology is cut and dried.  Some astrologers believe that Pluto rules Aries, for example.  Some people insist that Neptune is the higher octave of Mercury.  Frankly, if you&#039;re good at debate, you can argue anything.  For me, the proof comes in the practice, and as far as I&#039;m concerned, they work.  I&#039;d be happier if someone came up with a numerical pattern for them, but I&#039;ll live with it.  The great astrologer/philosopher Dane Rudhyar believed that the outer planets influenced the inner by antithesis--because they were beyond the limits of the concrete universe (Saturn), they influenced the inner planets by a kind of magnetic opposition.  For example, in very simplistic terms, Venus is about having, and Neptune is about letting go.  Mercury is about connecting, and Uranus severs the need for connection.  Mars is about focused and pointed action.  Pluto thwarts and destroys that forward motion.   These opposing actions ultimately stimulate and elevate the inner planet via a transpersonal consciousness. They, and we,  become less Earth bound by them.

I will do a bit of research and see if I can come up with any history on the establishment of the octaves.  If I can, I&#039;ll explore this further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of these higher octaves is a generally accepted one in astrology.  However, as far as I can tell, they have no basis in hard geometry or numerical sequence, and in some circles these relational octaves are contested.  Not everything in astrology is cut and dried.  Some astrologers believe that Pluto rules Aries, for example.  Some people insist that Neptune is the higher octave of Mercury.  Frankly, if you&#8217;re good at debate, you can argue anything.  For me, the proof comes in the practice, and as far as I&#8217;m concerned, they work.  I&#8217;d be happier if someone came up with a numerical pattern for them, but I&#8217;ll live with it.  The great astrologer/philosopher Dane Rudhyar believed that the outer planets influenced the inner by antithesis&#8211;because they were beyond the limits of the concrete universe (Saturn), they influenced the inner planets by a kind of magnetic opposition.  For example, in very simplistic terms, Venus is about having, and Neptune is about letting go.  Mercury is about connecting, and Uranus severs the need for connection.  Mars is about focused and pointed action.  Pluto thwarts and destroys that forward motion.   These opposing actions ultimately stimulate and elevate the inner planet via a transpersonal consciousness. They, and we,  become less Earth bound by them.</p>
<p>I will do a bit of research and see if I can come up with any history on the establishment of the octaves.  If I can, I&#8217;ll explore this further.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious as to what you say regarding the higher octave of planets: &quot;Mars opposite Pluto, Venus opposite Neptune, Mercury opposite Uranus&quot;

how is that defined?

at first I thought it was because the traditional planet rulerships of the signs were perhaps the lower octave of the higher planets (due to Mars-Pluto for Scorpio) but then I remembered that Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces (Neptune) and that Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius (Uranus).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious as to what you say regarding the higher octave of planets: &#8220;Mars opposite Pluto, Venus opposite Neptune, Mercury opposite Uranus&#8221;</p>
<p>how is that defined?</p>
<p>at first I thought it was because the traditional planet rulerships of the signs were perhaps the lower octave of the higher planets (due to Mars-Pluto for Scorpio) but then I remembered that Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces (Neptune) and that Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius (Uranus).</p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcuin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in life, dialogue is everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in life, dialogue is everything.</p>
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		<title>By: neithonastrology</title>
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		<dc:creator>neithonastrology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same feeling about oppositions and am always surprised by the resistance to notion there is nothing truly awful about them. After all they are in friendly signs &amp; elements unlike squares and quincunxes. Oppositions are more like sextiles in that respect, bringing enough diversity to keep things interesting. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same feeling about oppositions and am always surprised by the resistance to notion there is nothing truly awful about them. After all they are in friendly signs &amp; elements unlike squares and quincunxes. Oppositions are more like sextiles in that respect, bringing enough diversity to keep things interesting. <img src='http://theinnerwheel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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