Comments on: Synastry Q & A: Plutonian Relations http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations Astrology with Dawn Bodrogi Wed, 01 May 2013 16:56:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Evelyne http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4911 Evelyne Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:47:06 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4911 Oh I'm sorry, I guess I expressed myself badly, I meant: "in my natal theme !". I've got all these natal points, in my natal scorpio, natal house V. These points being in Scorpio, they are under the influence of Pluto, aren't they ?That's what I meant. I think it is probably why I'm attracted with men with a strong Pluto. My husband has Mars in scorpio,and it conjuncts three of these four points of mine in Scorpio. There is also another person whom I admire a lot who conjuncts them all.... Oh I’m sorry, I guess I expressed myself badly, I meant: “in my natal theme !”. I’ve got all these natal points, in my natal scorpio, natal house V. These points being in Scorpio, they are under the influence of Pluto, aren’t they ?That’s what I meant.
I think it is probably why I’m attracted with men with a strong Pluto. My husband has Mars in scorpio,and it conjuncts three of these four points of mine in Scorpio. There is also another person whom I admire a lot who conjuncts them all….

]]> By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4849 Dawn Bodrogi Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:07:55 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4849 I don't set much store by putting one person's planets in the other person's houses (unless they're on angles or in cardinal houses) and even less when planets, even the so-called bad guys like Mars and Pluto, make soft aspects to one another. Aspects trump everything, and the hard aspects are the ones you're really going to feel. I don’t set much store by putting one person’s planets in the other person’s houses (unless they’re on angles or in cardinal houses) and even less when planets, even the so-called bad guys like Mars and Pluto, make soft aspects to one another. Aspects trump everything, and the hard aspects are the ones you’re really going to feel.

]]> By: Evelyne http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4728 Evelyne Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:19:09 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4728 Good evening, Such a beautiful article about Pluto... I've got Eros/Psyché/Vertex/Neptune, all four conjunct tight in Scorpio V Well well... I won't describe in details, but I can say I feel Pluto , and I feel it from body to soul, and from soul to body, believe me... It's just like Hell is never far from Heaven, and Heaven never very far from Hell . Good evening,
Such a beautiful article about Pluto…
I’ve got Eros/Psyché/Vertex/Neptune, all four conjunct tight in Scorpio V
Well well… I won’t describe in details, but I can say I feel Pluto , and I feel it from body to soul, and from soul to body, believe me…
It’s just like Hell is never far from Heaven, and Heaven never very far from Hell .

]]> By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4400 Dawn Bodrogi Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:55:47 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4400 All angle/planet, Node/planet contacts are deeply significant. North Node contacts pull us forward, South Node contacts bring awareness of our past. There is no trine stronger than a conjunction. Ever. All angle/planet, Node/planet contacts are deeply significant. North Node contacts pull us forward, South Node contacts bring awareness of our past.

There is no trine stronger than a conjunction. Ever.

]]> By: Farheen http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4397 Farheen Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:58:32 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4397 Hello Dawn Thank you for your beautiful astrological studies. How significant can it be if one person's pluto/northnode conjunction in the 12th house hits another's sun/MC conjunction ? With his pluto uranus also at a 5 deg distance from MC. Also, in synastry, is venus/pluto trine stronger than sun/pluto conjunction in effect ? Hello Dawn

Thank you for your beautiful astrological studies.

How significant can it be if one person’s pluto/northnode conjunction in the 12th house hits another’s sun/MC conjunction ? With his pluto uranus also at a 5 deg distance from MC.

Also, in synastry, is venus/pluto trine stronger than sun/pluto conjunction in effect ?

]]> By: natasha http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-4058 natasha Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:56:40 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-4058 hello Dawn. I love reading all your articles, especially those about pluto. I'm Leo sun, i have pluto conjunct (through 12th house) ASC in libra and i'm a plutonian type. It's the second time i'm writing as I have transit Pluto opposite my natal Venus and six months ago I met pluto in person, a rising scorpio guy, also Leo sun, neptune cong. his asc. My pluto squares his mars and his venus. In addition his pluto sextile my venus. The relationship was immediate and the sexual interest compulsive and intense, but from the first time i try to distance myself feeling that it's the only way to deal with it (the jealousy, the possessiveness, or the fear for closeness - venus /uranus1st H square in natal). Being the pluto person in my previous relationships, i used to have the upper hand. This time i'm not so sure who is being affected the most. hello Dawn. I love reading all your articles, especially those about pluto. I’m Leo sun, i have pluto conjunct (through 12th house) ASC in libra and i’m a plutonian type.
It’s the second time i’m writing as I have transit Pluto opposite my natal Venus and six months ago I met pluto in person, a rising scorpio guy, also Leo sun, neptune cong. his asc.
My pluto squares his mars and his venus.
In addition his pluto sextile my venus.
The relationship was immediate and the sexual interest compulsive and intense, but from the first time i try to distance myself feeling that it’s the only way to deal with it (the jealousy, the possessiveness, or the fear for closeness – venus /uranus1st H square in natal).
Being the pluto person in my previous relationships, i used to have the upper hand. This time i’m not so sure who is being affected the most.

]]> By: Kitty http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-3666 Kitty Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:55:14 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-3666 I love your articles and am glad that I discovered this site. You seem to have a fresher perspective on astrology than some of the other sites I get information from. I was hesitant to pose a question since this article was written awhile ago but then I saw that you have been continuing to answer posts on this topic. I have recently met someone who is open minded to astrology and metaphysics and we have sort of clicked. I was able to get his birth info. I am able to find a good many interpretations, but it's difficult when you have multiple planet conjunctions in certain house to find any decent interpretation... I'm not very good at blending energies, yet. We have some really nice synastric aspects. His Sun (11') is conjunct his ASC (4'), Venus (6') and Neptune (4') in Capricorn with Cancer on the DSC. I am a 12th house Gemini (19') with a Cancer ASC (9'), Capricorn DSC, Moon in Capricorn (25') in the 7th house. His Venus (6') and my Mars in Virgo (3') are in a tight trine, His Sun is trine my Pluto in Virgo (9'). His Venus is in a tight oppos to my ASC. My Venus falls in his 4th house. His Sun is in my 7th house conj my DSC. My moon is in his 1st house. My Uranus/Mars/Pluto at 1', 3' and 9' in Virgo in the 3rd conj his Moon in Virgo (10') in the 8th. He also has a Mars/Pluto conj in Scorpio at 11' and 6' in the 9th. My Mars is square his Saturn in Sag (5'). I'm not sure that these aspects are helpful. That's not the whole chart - just the highlights. Even our chart rulers and leading planets are in mutual reception. We both have intercepted houses and duplicated houses that mirror each other in a certain ways. Here's where it is worrisome to me: My Uranus/Mars/Pluto conj in Virgo falls into his 8th house. His Mar/Pluto conj in Scorpio falls into my 5th and conjoins my Neptune Rx. I have read that Mars/Pluto in tight aspect in a synastric chart can be cause for an abusive relationship to form. But I also read in this forum that if the planets are in compatible elements, then the energy is easier to handle. I am hoping that because the planets in question are sextile to each other, that won't be the case. I'm also hoping that we have enough helpful/balancing aspects that they can be used to tone down some of the intensity this energy might produce. I'm hoping there is enough information there for you to be able to offer some advice. Can you tell me how this energy is likely to play out? I love your articles and am glad that I discovered this site. You seem to have a fresher perspective on astrology than some of the other sites I get information from. I was hesitant to pose a question since this article was written awhile ago but then I saw that you have been continuing to answer posts on this topic.

I have recently met someone who is open minded to astrology and metaphysics and we have sort of clicked. I was able to get his birth info. I am able to find a good many interpretations, but it’s difficult when you have multiple planet conjunctions in certain house to find any decent interpretation… I’m not very good at blending energies, yet.

We have some really nice synastric aspects. His Sun (11′) is conjunct his ASC (4′), Venus (6′) and Neptune (4′) in Capricorn with Cancer on the DSC. I am a 12th house Gemini (19′) with a Cancer ASC (9′), Capricorn DSC, Moon in Capricorn (25′) in the 7th house. His Venus (6′) and my Mars in Virgo (3′) are in a tight trine, His Sun is trine my Pluto in Virgo (9′). His Venus is in a tight oppos to my ASC. My Venus falls in his 4th house. His Sun is in my 7th house conj my DSC. My moon is in his 1st house.

My Uranus/Mars/Pluto at 1′, 3′ and 9′ in Virgo in the 3rd conj his Moon in Virgo (10′) in the 8th. He also has a Mars/Pluto conj in Scorpio at 11′ and 6′ in the 9th. My Mars is square his Saturn in Sag (5′). I’m not sure that these aspects are helpful.

That’s not the whole chart – just the highlights. Even our chart rulers and leading planets are in mutual reception. We both have intercepted houses and duplicated houses that mirror each other in a certain ways.

Here’s where it is worrisome to me: My Uranus/Mars/Pluto conj in Virgo falls into his 8th house. His Mar/Pluto conj in Scorpio falls into my 5th and conjoins my Neptune Rx. I have read that Mars/Pluto in tight aspect in a synastric chart can be cause for an abusive relationship to form. But I also read in this forum that if the planets are in compatible elements, then the energy is easier to handle. I am hoping that because the planets in question are sextile to each other, that won’t be the case. I’m also hoping that we have enough helpful/balancing aspects that they can be used to tone down some of the intensity this energy might produce. I’m hoping there is enough information there for you to be able to offer some advice. Can you tell me how this energy is likely to play out?

]]> By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-3309 Dawn Bodrogi Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:45:44 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-3309 I'm afraid I can't answer a questions as general, and as important, as whether or not your partner feels the same intensity for you that you do for her. My instinct tells me that if you have to ask, you need to communicate better with one another. With Pluto, if it is strong, you should know. You would not be afraid to strip one another down, emotionally, even if you do not speak. Pluto helps us work through blockages to get to the pure expression of soul within. When Pluto is dominant in a synastry, there are always blocks to work through and break down. You need to be honest with one another, even if she is not good with words, you need to know. But then, of course, Pluto is never satisfied. Maybe you do know, but are looking for reassurance, which is also typical of Pluto. On the other hand, it is never good to attribute too much energy to one planet, even Pluto. We are an expression of everything in the chart. Other planets will have their say. Listen to them. I’m afraid I can’t answer a questions as general, and as important, as whether or not your partner feels the same intensity for you that you do for her. My instinct tells me that if you have to ask, you need to communicate better with one another. With Pluto, if it is strong, you should know. You would not be afraid to strip one another down, emotionally, even if you do not speak. Pluto helps us work through blockages to get to the pure expression of soul within. When Pluto is dominant in a synastry, there are always blocks to work through and break down. You need to be honest with one another, even if she is not good with words, you need to know. But then, of course, Pluto is never satisfied. Maybe you do know, but are looking for reassurance, which is also typical of Pluto.

On the other hand, it is never good to attribute too much energy to one planet, even Pluto. We are an expression of everything in the chart. Other planets will have their say. Listen to them.

]]> By: DRU66 http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-3305 DRU66 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:18:10 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-3305 Greetings Dawn...Kudos to such a soulful site you are full of spiritual wisdom, your words are a great inspiration and flow from a higher power indeed...I found you about a year ago much like others searching for answers to the greater meaning of life through personal transcendence and intimate relationships...Your words acted upon me like a warm soothing blanket during what was the darkest, scariest and most intense time of my life...Natally, Libra Sun, Gem Rising and Aries Moon...lots of Yang energy here and I have been told by many I am a very strong woman...However, I have Pluto Conjunct Venus, Pluto Square Ascendent, Uranus Conjunct Venus and Saturn touches everything in my chart except my Sun…Natally. My Progressed chart states that my Sun, Venus and Merc are all in Scorpio now...In addition I am currently undergoing, the past 2 years a Pluto Square/Uranus Opposition to my Natal Sun transit….whew, seeing this on paper makes me shudder… I am a 46 year old Pagan female in a same sex partnership the past 5 years...Oddly enough her Pluto and Uranus Conjuncts my Venus plus her Pluto Squares my Ascendent (a mirror image of my Natal) and her Pluto Inconjuncts my Moon …you talk about being dropped into the middle of Guerilla warfare, my psyche’s splayed out, all my landmarks and defense mechanisms gone with nothing to guide me home… but I did and I continue to fight Pluto again and again… Natally, She is a Gem Sun, Libra Rising and Scorp Moon. Her Pluto and Uranus Squares her Sun, Pluto Semi Sextiles her Ascendent …My Pluto Squares her Sun, Sextiles her Merc, Semi Sextiles her Ascendent and Mars, Plus my Uranus Squares her Sun….again our synastry is almost a mirror image to her Nata like hers to minel…I can’t help but think some greater force has forged us together…Pluto likes Pluto…I have done so much healing in the last 2 years I am not at all the same person…I feel like I walked through the bowels of Hades but I came back with blessed gifts…I learned one of the most precious gifts…Unconditional Love for myself and for her…I have never felt this way for anyone…I feel one of my gifts to Humanity is healing and guiding/teaching others by example (my Life Path number is the very spiritual loner #7) I also gained immense clearsightedness and and can sense and feel things acutely…I can pick up Pluto energy from others, strangers whomever like a puppy smells its Kibbles blocks away…and I would not change anything I went through… I do have two questions…I am aware you cannot always answers things without seeing the charts but she is not one for words and keeps things within…I know what I feel and felt and wonder if she feels the same intensity/transformation as I did/do with my Pluto aspecting her chart. I believe so as she has never stayed this long with anyone and has stated early on that she has found her soulmate…Second question how does my Pluto Semi Sextile her Mars and her Ascendent work…they are both exact…Thankyou for listening…Blessings to you and yours… Greetings Dawn…Kudos to such a soulful site you are full of spiritual wisdom, your words are a great inspiration and flow from a higher power indeed…I found you about a year ago much like others searching for answers to the greater meaning of life through personal transcendence and intimate relationships…Your words acted upon me like a warm soothing blanket during what was the darkest, scariest and most intense time of my life…Natally, Libra Sun, Gem Rising and Aries Moon…lots of Yang energy here and I have been told by many I am a very strong woman…However, I have Pluto Conjunct Venus, Pluto Square Ascendent, Uranus Conjunct Venus and Saturn touches everything in my chart except my Sun…Natally.
My Progressed chart states that my Sun, Venus and Merc are all in Scorpio now…In addition I am currently undergoing, the past 2 years a Pluto Square/Uranus Opposition to my Natal Sun transit….whew, seeing this on paper makes me shudder…
I am a 46 year old Pagan female in a same sex partnership the past 5 years…Oddly enough her Pluto and Uranus Conjuncts my Venus plus her Pluto Squares my Ascendent (a mirror image of my Natal) and her Pluto Inconjuncts my Moon …you talk about being dropped into the middle of Guerilla warfare, my psyche’s splayed out, all my landmarks and defense mechanisms gone with nothing to guide me home… but I did and I continue to fight Pluto again and again…
Natally, She is a Gem Sun, Libra Rising and Scorp Moon. Her Pluto and Uranus Squares her Sun, Pluto Semi Sextiles her Ascendent …My Pluto Squares her Sun, Sextiles her Merc, Semi Sextiles her Ascendent and Mars, Plus my Uranus Squares her Sun….again our synastry is almost a mirror image to her Nata like hers to minel…I can’t help but think some greater force has forged us together…Pluto likes Pluto…I have done so much healing in the last 2 years I am not at all the same person…I feel like I walked through the bowels of Hades but I came back with blessed gifts…I learned one of the most precious gifts…Unconditional Love for myself and for her…I have never felt this way for anyone…I feel one of my gifts to Humanity is healing and guiding/teaching others by example (my Life Path number is the very spiritual loner #7) I also gained immense clearsightedness and and can sense and feel things acutely…I can pick up Pluto energy from others, strangers whomever like a puppy smells its Kibbles blocks away…and I would not change anything I went through…
I do have two questions…I am aware you cannot always answers things without seeing the charts but she is not one for words and keeps things within…I know what I feel and felt and wonder if she feels the same intensity/transformation as I did/do with my Pluto aspecting her chart. I believe so as she has never stayed this long with anyone and has stated early on that she has found her soulmate…Second question how does my Pluto Semi Sextile her Mars and her Ascendent work…they are both exact…Thankyou for listening…Blessings to you and yours…

]]> By: justagirl http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/11/13/synastry-q-a-plutonian-relations/#comment-3016 justagirl Tue, 04 Sep 2012 18:53:30 +0000 http://alcuin9.wordpress.com/?p=798#comment-3016 Thanks so much Dawn. Will certainly have a look at these books! Thanks so much Dawn. Will certainly have a look at these books!

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