Comments on: The Chart Workshop: Trickster Aspects

By: alcuin9

alcuin9 — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:31:30 +0000

Sorry, I don’t use them. There is so much to look at in synastry that I don’t find them relevant.

By: prakash

prakash — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:30:45 +0000

dear Dawn,

Can you give some idea about solictice or anticia points in natal chart and synastry?

Thank You

By: prakash

prakash — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:30:17 +0000

dear Dawn,

Can you give some idea about solictice or anticia points in synastry?

Thank You

By: alcuin9

alcuin9 — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:26:44 +0000

Hi Sabrina,

As a rule of thumb, aspect wins out over element, particularly if the aspect is difficult but the signs are compatible. But it’s also true that what is difficult, what gives grist for the mill, is more obvious than things that run smoothly, hence the example with the sextile. Compatible things are silent. Difficult things are squeaky wheels.

By: Sabrina

Sabrina — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:35:44 +0000

Of course, then I reread and your example of the sextile not being so harmonious seems to say the opposite of what I just commented… My brain has turn into slightly electrified scrambled eggs.

By: Sabrina

Sabrina — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:06:12 +0000

Hi Dawn,
I’m just trying to make sure I grasp how to understand this in synastry. My sun is 29°56’55″ Aquarius, so I end up having A LOT of out-of-element aspects to other people. Are you saying that the signs’ agreement (or disagreement) gives the initial feeling of compatibility (or incompatibility), but that deeper down the aspect wins out? For example, two friends of mine, both have their suns at very early degrees of their signs: one’s a Sagittarius and one’s a Scorpio. At first glance I think, “Oh Sagittarius, we’ll get along great, and Scorpio, this is gonna be rough,” but looking at the charts, my sun is actually square to the Sag’s and trine to the Scorp’s, and I wasn’t really sure how to understand that, so I just figured, “well, maybe the element compatibility will overcome the square with Sag and the trine will overcome Water Versus Air with Scorp” (yeah, I don’t know how I thought that was logical. I was being hopeful!). So I set all that on the back burner of my brain and it’s been months now, and this article brought it back to mind. And thinking of it, I actually got a sense dealing with the Sag just earlier today that, for signs that are supposed to get along (and don’t get me wrong – we do), there’s always this weird tension underneathe. And then with Scorpio, it’s weird too, like there’s some invisible wall between us that keeps us from interacting much when we don’t have a reason to, but when we actually do, we get on so smoothly and things flow. And I wasn’t sure what to make of this until I read this post. Am I understanding it right? Sag and I ought to get on, and do very well superficially, but the square is knotting things up at a deeper level, while Scorpio and I seem to be worlds apart, but the trine smoothes things out when we connect? Aspects trump signs?

Wow, that’s so much longer than it should have been. Sorry. I shouldn’t be allowed near a keyboard.
~Sabrina

By: Jas

Jas — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:11:00 +0000

I do have an out of sign square in earth also

Born in 1985, I have Moon @ 28virgo squaring Neptune @ 2capricorn

Moon is ruling my 11th house, Neptune my 7th and if my birth time isn’t off, also my 8th

Moon lives in my 2nd house, Neptune in my 4th…

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By: alcuin9

alcuin9 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:30:05 +0000

We’re going to get much more involved in reading the nodal rulers in the series on the Nodes. I think there are a lot of mistaken ideas out there about nodal contacts, chief among them that aspects to the North Node ruler automatically ‘assist’, when in fact they both help and hinder. Again, in the Perkins chart (forgive me, Tony) the Venus/Neptune square and Mars/Neptune quincunx pushed towards artistic expression, but it also was a recipe for Neptunian disaster. Overcoming these tendencies was an evolutionary necessity. Unfortunately, they were facilitated by an out of sign sextile between Venus and Mars. Neptune was plugged in to all this opportunity–too much opportunity.

By: Don Musser

Don Musser — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:58:08 +0000

this is helpful – we can sense and read the state of nodal evolution from the obvious – and subtle – aspects affecting the nodal rulers.

you have me reflecting on the Libra Venus / Leo Mars square in my chart that connects the Nodal rulers to the Ascendent and the Midhaven. along with the rest of my Libra 12 th house placements – there was a definite “trickster” quality to that aspect. however, with the angles involved , Scorpio rising, and the exact Moon Pluto square – as much as my Taurus Moon really wanted to – i could not keep my head in the sand very easily…….