Comments on: Synastry Studies: The Saturn/Saturn Opposition

By: Stephanie Ann

Stephanie Ann — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:42:46 +0000

I’d like to add that sometimes I truly believe the co-dependency issues are best dealt with by giving oneself the respect/tenderness and love that the other cannot give. I enjoy taking care of myself until my self-love is such that I can draw a partner who can match it…sans the co-dependent. I do know there’s always some challenge which will test me as Saturn does, yet while dating I find myself wanting to be cautious about the karma I choose to engage and to learn to be the best Saturnian person I can be to everyone in my life until I find the Saturn lesson that I can manage okay.

By: Stephanie Ann

Stephanie Ann — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:21:07 +0000

I dated someone whose Leo Saturn which fell in my 10th house and opposed my 4th house Aquarius Saturn. This aspect was interesting to experience and helped me to evolve. I’m the older woman, age 50, a successful therapist. He was a highly responsible/professional, and yet showed up frequently late….. sometimes an hour late for our dates, sometimes canceling, giving needing to work as his reason. My lessons revolved around reclaiming my self-respect and easing my deep seated emotional frustration/disappointment/victim feelings. I was aware that although a man can be top of his career game, he might not show the same consciousness in showing up as a partner. There was a deep attraction, soulmate perhaps, so this was confusing as love was certainly there. Yet, I knew I needed to move on, as his choice was his career. I am someone who is highly conscious about showing up in my relationships on time and here was someone who was highly self-involved… when I tried to communicate to him how frustrating it was to be kept waiting. I wondered how I could be receiving such disregard. He never made apologies for this. In the end it was an obvious parting of ways I needed to make. His choice was his career, however sad for me. I did feel I could have worked this opposition out, but it would have involved “training” the younger man to empathize w/me and to schedule his time properly. But, I intuited that this Saturn lesson was not my problem to solve, but his to learn eventually on his own.

By: Sha

Sha — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:24:46 +0000

What a golden article, i haven’t bumped in such a good read for ages ! Looking out to browsing your archive

Kudos & cheers ! ~

By: Debbierl

Debbierl — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 21:33:23 +0000

Great article. I am madly in love with a Scorpio man whose Saturn in sag opposes my Saturn in Gemini. My cancer sun falls in my ninth house and I always seem to have some heavy sag energy in my romantic partners chart (my last relationship of ten years was with a sag). We certainly our pushing each other, but it feels super positive and exciting perhaps because our charts our full of trines and sextiles in other configurations. His moon trines my sun in piesces although mine opposes his sun in Taurus. He believes I am his emotional teacher, I have been utilizing our friendship and now love relationship as an exercise in recovering from codependency. My rinsing is in Scorpio as is my Jupiter , my Venus in cancer, he’s mostly Scorpio. Karmic work feels easy and beautiful with him, and the sex is without description

By: K

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:44:48 +0000

Thought I’d jump in here – I thought fear was represented by Pluto?

I decided to terminate the relationship with the Saturn person I was seeing. I felt it simply wasn’t going anywhere. We’re both hurt, to be sure, but we remain friends.

In looking at my Saturn in my own chart, it sits in my 5th house, and I’ve had many “Saturnine” romances. In one case, Saturn was opposite the composite Sun of one of my exes and I (in Synastry, his Saturn almost formed a sextile with my Venus, while my Saturn was in the same sign as his Venus). In another, boyfriend’s Sun was tightly conjunct my Saturn. Saturn has figured quite prominently in all my relationships. I was deeply afraid that the last relationship I was pursuing would go nowhere, causing me to waste a lot of time (Saturn, hehe) and maybe even pass up some better opportunities. Of course, maybe one day our friendship will make my Saturn man finally open up and let go of his past wounds. We shall see. As the saying goes, to be continued….

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:29:49 +0000

With Saturn, there is often an initial hesitancy. This hesitancy is often dogged by the fact that two people keep meeting up again and again. When Saturn wants something, it doesn’t let go, so you can imagine when two Saturns are involved. Wherever Saturn is, we have fear. Fear that must be conquered by practical experience. If you avoid this relationship, it doesn’t necessarily mean you will have another one just like it, but it’s certain that your Saturn issues will come up in later relationships. In a way, Saturn/Saturn forces the issue, and cuts the lesson time in half.

By: cleo

cleo — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:07:57 +0000

Hi Dawn, Great Blog. I’m (almost) involved in a Saturn opposition and this (almost) relationship has been going on for years. Me and my “Almost” frequent the same local hang out and every time we encounter one another we eye lock into our own little space in the cosmos. We became friends and still projected our sexual tension, but never acted on our desires. (my Pluto in his first house, his in my 8th house, also my moon conjunct his North node, his venus conjunct my North Node. My Ascendant is conjunct his Descendent). I finally got fed up and stop going to the hang out for years. Neither one of us seemed to have the guts to make the first move. Recently, I’ve gone back to the hang out and there he was with same love struck look on his face, a little hurt by my absence but still happy to see me. It’s an Aries-Libra Saturn Opposition, I have the Saturn in Aries. I know I probably should just lay all of my cards on the table, but I actually feel physical pain when I think of being rejected by him if I’m wrong. This relationship feels, “meant to be.”
So my question is.. If you avoid a Saturn opposition relationship, will there just be another in it’s place down the road?
Is this something I should unveil?

By: KK

KK — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:16:51 +0000

Hi Dawn, lovely site as usual. Still living off this Saturn opposition relationship to this day. I guess, I’m just ‘locked’ into position with this guy as far my identity is concerned. I’d like to point out that we have control issues, one that we utterly hate in each other, but ones that we try our best to discuss and reason out with. The flight response is gone, after having realised for sometime that neither of us can easily walk away. So we grit our teeth and weather it out. In the first two years together, he’s the one with the shorter fuse, walking away in the slightest differences, but back again in less than 48 hours. Lately however, I’m the one who’s manifesting the ‘walking away, back in 24 hours’ mode. The loyalty and fidelity is fiercely there however. We hate each other’s controlling ways, yet we can’t stand being with anyone else but each other.

Clearly, we recognized the need to to identify the need for pressure valves in the relationship – and no it’s not sex. It is mutually agreed time to be away from each other for at least 2 days; no communication, no interfering with each other’s work. These are our mini-break ups. When we start missing each other, that’s around 3 days, then the sex part becomes fantastic. And so the cycle continues; crazy cycle I mean!

Clearly each of us has reached our wit’s end during the course of the relationship over the years but then everytime we actually tried to split, we just find excuses to be together again. Meanwhile, our credibility towards each other suffers, until we simply agreed recently to stay with each other. regardless how daunting the future would be (read: endless control issues).

By: K

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:05:44 +0000

Thank you for answering me. I hope you don’t mind my continuing this discussion. I’m so glad to hear from another Astrologer on this.

The man I referred to in my first post is a Taurus Sun, Cancer Moon, Virgo Asc. I blame the heavy Saturn influence for his almost complete inability to open up to me. He has no trouble talking about me, or about sex (his Venus-Mars trine is free of Saturnine influence). But about anything deeper than that, his expression is stifled. I see emotion in his eyes, but it never really goes beyond them.

You are right about Saturn “hooking” what it doesn’t have. I think both our Saturns did that. I am a free-spirited Aries, and I admire his emotional discipline. He admires my openness and my forthright attitude. But unless he opens up to me, we cannot have a functional relationship.

I mentioned how my Saturn activates the Saturn in his chart. Well it works the other way, too. His Saturn, in Aries, activates the major 5th/11th house oppositions in my chart.

Since Saturn has entered my 5th house two years ago, I’ve had to learn some pretty hard romantic lessons, all of which culminated in me terminating those relationships. Saturn is so close to a Return in my chart now; maybe this is the final lesson. I’m just not sure if it’s a “let-go” lesson or a “work it out, be patient” lesson.

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:51:51 +0000

It’s not only possible, but in a spiritual sense, it’s necessary. Saturn represents the things we must do and learn in this lifetime. It’s not about things we can put off, but things we must confront. If we run away from Saturn, he will only come back to knock on our door harder during the next 7 year cycle. Saturn is all about maturity and taking responsibility. When other people’s planets make aspects to our Saturn, it’s a bit like being nagged about things you know you need to do. Maybe, if you’re a very firey or airy type, you won’t like this much, and Saturn will feel very oppressive. In this case you may leave for a less ‘heavy’ relationship. We all have choices. But you will confront Saturn one day, no matter what.

I would much rather cope with a heavy Saturn relationship than one which is dominated by Uranus, Neptune or Pluto. At least you know where you stand with Saturn, and if the relationship is otherwise healthy Saturn may bestow favours on you which you never thought possible. Saturn usually rewards us for work well done, which is not always the case with the other planets.