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		<title>By: Vladimir Komarov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir Komarov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again!

Your note is more than informative, I understand now what do you mean. Thank you for this answers.

I&#039;m a subscriber to the blog&#039;s RSS and when I have enough time I&#039;m reading your articles with interest, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again!</p>
<p>Your note is more than informative, I understand now what do you mean. Thank you for this answers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a subscriber to the blog&#8217;s RSS and when I have enough time I&#8217;m reading your articles with interest, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/05/22/bang-or-bust-the-big-cardinal-cross/#comment-529</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vladimir,

First of all, your English is wonderful.  Secondly, I have to blame a late night and sloppy writing for not saying quite what I intended to say.  Thirdly, you&#039;ve hit on something I wanted to discuss, but didn&#039;t have the energy to write about at the time, so thank you for pointing it out.  In fact, contrary to popular belief, there IS NO big cardinal cross.  That&#039;s why I think this is all a lot of hooey (English slang for garbage).  These planets never cross in cardinal signs.  What we have here, this summer, is the first Jupiter/Uranus conjunction in Aries squaring Pluto in Cap, with Saturn squaring, but still in Virgo.   June 8th is the day that astrologers are considering the beginning of the time these conflicting energies fall into place, due to the Jupiter/Uranus conjunction at 0 Aries--they&#039;re thinking about the big T-square as a major pattern, and then anything moving into early Cancer to complete the square can trigger it (Moon, Sun, asteroids, stardust).   But honestly, as I said, I think this is all nonsense, and I&#039;m more concerned about the transiting Nodes hitting a Pluto/Mars conjunction later in the year.  

Pluto in Capricorn is set out to destroy outdated structures, Jupiter/Uranus will urge it on and Saturn will fight it.  And yes, anything that opposes Pluto from Cancer will trigger a fight.  (On June 21st, the Sun moves there, and this is the closest we get to a real cardinal cross.) We&#039;re in for change, and those who refuse change will have it thrust upon them. But there has been too much talk about this non-existent so-called &quot;cardinal&quot; cross in the field, particularly from those who are hinting at apocalyptic scenarios without offering any reasonable advice.  

The truth is that Saturn enters zero Libra on July 21st.  We spend a tense couple of months with this volatile T-square, but by early September Jupiter and Uranus retro and dip back into Pisces.  I think, if we do have any trouble, it will be in late September when the Sun joins Saturn in squaring the Nodes; Pluto will be conjunct the transiting NN and the Sun will still be in orb of opposing Jupiter and Uranus.  But anything is possible during this time, (certainly with Jupiter/Uranus involved) and its just as likely that someone will find a cure for a major disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladimir,</p>
<p>First of all, your English is wonderful.  Secondly, I have to blame a late night and sloppy writing for not saying quite what I intended to say.  Thirdly, you&#8217;ve hit on something I wanted to discuss, but didn&#8217;t have the energy to write about at the time, so thank you for pointing it out.  In fact, contrary to popular belief, there IS NO big cardinal cross.  That&#8217;s why I think this is all a lot of hooey (English slang for garbage).  These planets never cross in cardinal signs.  What we have here, this summer, is the first Jupiter/Uranus conjunction in Aries squaring Pluto in Cap, with Saturn squaring, but still in Virgo.   June 8th is the day that astrologers are considering the beginning of the time these conflicting energies fall into place, due to the Jupiter/Uranus conjunction at 0 Aries&#8211;they&#8217;re thinking about the big T-square as a major pattern, and then anything moving into early Cancer to complete the square can trigger it (Moon, Sun, asteroids, stardust).   But honestly, as I said, I think this is all nonsense, and I&#8217;m more concerned about the transiting Nodes hitting a Pluto/Mars conjunction later in the year.  </p>
<p>Pluto in Capricorn is set out to destroy outdated structures, Jupiter/Uranus will urge it on and Saturn will fight it.  And yes, anything that opposes Pluto from Cancer will trigger a fight.  (On June 21st, the Sun moves there, and this is the closest we get to a real cardinal cross.) We&#8217;re in for change, and those who refuse change will have it thrust upon them. But there has been too much talk about this non-existent so-called &#8220;cardinal&#8221; cross in the field, particularly from those who are hinting at apocalyptic scenarios without offering any reasonable advice.  </p>
<p>The truth is that Saturn enters zero Libra on July 21st.  We spend a tense couple of months with this volatile T-square, but by early September Jupiter and Uranus retro and dip back into Pisces.  I think, if we do have any trouble, it will be in late September when the Sun joins Saturn in squaring the Nodes; Pluto will be conjunct the transiting NN and the Sun will still be in orb of opposing Jupiter and Uranus.  But anything is possible during this time, (certainly with Jupiter/Uranus involved) and its just as likely that someone will find a cure for a major disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir Komarov</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/05/22/bang-or-bust-the-big-cardinal-cross/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir Komarov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 08:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but where is this big cardinal cross? I don&#039;t see anything in Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn which is on opposition or square? Yes, we have Mars opp. Chiron, but it&#039;s in mutable Virgo-Pisces signs, and again nothing in Gemini-Saggitarius? Could you, please, explain which big cardinal cross on June 8th do you mentioned about?

// Sorry for my - probably - terrible English :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but where is this big cardinal cross? I don&#8217;t see anything in Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn which is on opposition or square? Yes, we have Mars opp. Chiron, but it&#8217;s in mutable Virgo-Pisces signs, and again nothing in Gemini-Saggitarius? Could you, please, explain which big cardinal cross on June 8th do you mentioned about?</p>
<p>// Sorry for my &#8211; probably &#8211; terrible English <img src='http://theinnerwheel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sb2487</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn,
Thanks for addressing this! I&#039;m very excited for this cross. My NN is at 0 Aries and my ASC at 1 Aries. I also have a lot of other natal placements that are being exactly aspected by the cardinal cross. Anyway, lots of changes already seem to be in motion for me but get this! June 8, the day you mentioned, I am scheduled to have surgery to finally correct the effects of an bad accident I was in when I was younger. Considering Mars and Chiron&#039;s placements that day (as well as my own natal Mars at 0 Scorpio and the NN and axes positions I mentioned), I&#039;m amazed! I didn&#039;t even know about those placements when I was scheduled for that day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn,<br />
Thanks for addressing this! I&#8217;m very excited for this cross. My NN is at 0 Aries and my ASC at 1 Aries. I also have a lot of other natal placements that are being exactly aspected by the cardinal cross. Anyway, lots of changes already seem to be in motion for me but get this! June 8, the day you mentioned, I am scheduled to have surgery to finally correct the effects of an bad accident I was in when I was younger. Considering Mars and Chiron&#8217;s placements that day (as well as my own natal Mars at 0 Scorpio and the NN and axes positions I mentioned), I&#8217;m amazed! I didn&#8217;t even know about those placements when I was scheduled for that day.</p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcuin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 15:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: annewhitaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 14:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn
just logged in - currently away again in the wild and beautiful North West of Scotland, doing some walking in beautiful woods and hill country by the sea, forgetting all about whether the sky will fall in or not early in June! 

Thanks for this measured piece, and for the heads-up. If I see any alien lovers who seem keen on doing a spot of abducting, I&#039;ll send them your way! 

Mind you, Jupiter/Uranus squares my Mars come June.......might find one for myself too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn<br />
just logged in &#8211; currently away again in the wild and beautiful North West of Scotland, doing some walking in beautiful woods and hill country by the sea, forgetting all about whether the sky will fall in or not early in June! </p>
<p>Thanks for this measured piece, and for the heads-up. If I see any alien lovers who seem keen on doing a spot of abducting, I&#8217;ll send them your way! </p>
<p>Mind you, Jupiter/Uranus squares my Mars come June&#8230;&#8230;.might find one for myself too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Astromama</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/05/22/bang-or-bust-the-big-cardinal-cross/#comment-524</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness, that chart looks like my natal chart. I haven&#039;t had the leisure of investigating this impending grand cross save to be aware that it is coming. Thanks for addressing it, keeping it light and sending us elsewhere to learn more. I enjoy your blog. Peace. Love. Light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness, that chart looks like my natal chart. I haven&#8217;t had the leisure of investigating this impending grand cross save to be aware that it is coming. Thanks for addressing it, keeping it light and sending us elsewhere to learn more. I enjoy your blog. Peace. Love. Light.</p>
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