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		<title>By: Matt Savinar</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Savinar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 04:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing: if you have cool examples for sun/moon combos - like iconic celebrties with those combos or images from Charles Harvey&#039;s book, then people who know their moon, you&#039;ve automatically got something to talk about. and it&#039;s about people&#039;s favorite topic, themselves! (or their friends)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing: if you have cool examples for sun/moon combos &#8211; like iconic celebrties with those combos or images from Charles Harvey&#8217;s book, then people who know their moon, you&#8217;ve automatically got something to talk about. and it&#8217;s about people&#8217;s favorite topic, themselves! (or their friends)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Savinar</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Savinar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 04:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m waaaayyyy late to the party here but you guys have NOTHING to complain about. I ran a very popular website about PEak Oil for close to 8 years, quit to pursue astrology and some related endeavors. If you think astrology pisses people off or rangles their feathers, try mentioning Peak Oil! LMAO! No matter how diplomatic you are it&#039;s like major freak out time as soon as that is mentioned. Seriously, I&#039;ve found it down right easy - by orders of magnitude mind you - to mention astrology compared to peak oil. You mentione Peak Oil at a dinner party, even just casually as being a topic you write about as part of what you do and you get dead silence. With astrology, 5 people will say &quot;I don&#039;t believe that stuff&quot; and 5 will either know some of their placements or be curious. 

A take on this issue from an Arch Druid friend of mine:

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html

also, the astrologer I see says requests for readings are off the chart. I think there&#039;s a resurgence in interest although attendance at classes may not be a good indicator simply because even if people are more interested the economy is so bad they may not have the money to go. just my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m waaaayyyy late to the party here but you guys have NOTHING to complain about. I ran a very popular website about PEak Oil for close to 8 years, quit to pursue astrology and some related endeavors. If you think astrology pisses people off or rangles their feathers, try mentioning Peak Oil! LMAO! No matter how diplomatic you are it&#8217;s like major freak out time as soon as that is mentioned. Seriously, I&#8217;ve found it down right easy &#8211; by orders of magnitude mind you &#8211; to mention astrology compared to peak oil. You mentione Peak Oil at a dinner party, even just casually as being a topic you write about as part of what you do and you get dead silence. With astrology, 5 people will say &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe that stuff&#8221; and 5 will either know some of their placements or be curious. </p>
<p>A take on this issue from an Arch Druid friend of mine:</p>
<p><a href="http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html</a></p>
<p>also, the astrologer I see says requests for readings are off the chart. I think there&#8217;s a resurgence in interest although attendance at classes may not be a good indicator simply because even if people are more interested the economy is so bad they may not have the money to go. just my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>alcuin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you studied physics, you were already in the club, you just didn&#039;t know it.  Welcome to your real family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you studied physics, you were already in the club, you just didn&#8217;t know it.  Welcome to your real family.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill C.</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I am grateful to astrologers and the work that they do.  I can not count the number of times that reading the words of an astrologer has revealed something that would not have occurred to me otherwise.  (By the way, this is coming from someone who studied physics in college.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I am grateful to astrologers and the work that they do.  I can not count the number of times that reading the words of an astrologer has revealed something that would not have occurred to me otherwise.  (By the way, this is coming from someone who studied physics in college.)</p>
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		<title>By: PSW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant
Thank You deeply for this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant<br />
Thank You deeply for this</p>
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		<title>By: Kia Ora &#171; Astro Stella</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Kia Ora &#171; Astro Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it hugely enlightening in my own life.  This post from one of my favourite astrology bloggers The Inner Wheel answers the Why Astrology? question [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it hugely enlightening in my own life.  This post from one of my favourite astrology bloggers The Inner Wheel answers the Why Astrology? question [...] </p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Wizron.  I am very much in agreement with you about Chiron and interdimensionality.  It is very much a shamanic energy.  Chiron is more than a mere teacher.  It is Chiron who anchors the energy of the outer planets into something real.  He translates, as you say--he delivers.  And this is always a painful practice, leaving us wounded and isolated from the mainstream.  We have to focus on the good that we do, the heroes that we make.

I hope you&#039;re right about Uranus/Pluto.  The last Uranus/Pluto square wasn&#039;t so promising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Wizron.  I am very much in agreement with you about Chiron and interdimensionality.  It is very much a shamanic energy.  Chiron is more than a mere teacher.  It is Chiron who anchors the energy of the outer planets into something real.  He translates, as you say&#8211;he delivers.  And this is always a painful practice, leaving us wounded and isolated from the mainstream.  We have to focus on the good that we do, the heroes that we make.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re right about Uranus/Pluto.  The last Uranus/Pluto square wasn&#8217;t so promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Wizron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece of writing. Wasn&#039;t Chiron the brilliant but socially rejected and misunderstood hermit who lived in his cave? There is a lot of Chiron energy in this piece of writing. I believe Chiron has as much to do with astrology as Uranus does (Chiron was an astrology teacher after all) and we as astrologers all feel this &#039;wounding&#039;. I have for a long time believed that Chiron rules interdimensionality (oneness), interconnection and translation. We as astrologers attempt to translate &#039;oneness&#039; information from the universe for ourselves and other people. And we all connect into the oneness by practising astrology. Your &#039;interconnection to the oneness&#039; experience during your Chiron square validates my view of Chiron as an interdimensional connecting link.

I feel that astrology will once again rise in prominence during the upcoming Uranus-Pluto square. In the meantime, I will continue to &#039;keep the faith&#039; :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece of writing. Wasn&#8217;t Chiron the brilliant but socially rejected and misunderstood hermit who lived in his cave? There is a lot of Chiron energy in this piece of writing. I believe Chiron has as much to do with astrology as Uranus does (Chiron was an astrology teacher after all) and we as astrologers all feel this &#8216;wounding&#8217;. I have for a long time believed that Chiron rules interdimensionality (oneness), interconnection and translation. We as astrologers attempt to translate &#8216;oneness&#8217; information from the universe for ourselves and other people. And we all connect into the oneness by practising astrology. Your &#8216;interconnection to the oneness&#8217; experience during your Chiron square validates my view of Chiron as an interdimensional connecting link.</p>
<p>I feel that astrology will once again rise in prominence during the upcoming Uranus-Pluto square. In the meantime, I will continue to &#8216;keep the faith&#8217; <img src='http://theinnerwheel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Currie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a chronic &quot;measurer&quot; (at times) myself... I thank you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a chronic &#8220;measurer&#8221; (at times) myself&#8230; I thank you. <img src='http://theinnerwheel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alcuin9</title>
		<link>http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/06/11/the-measurers-versus-the-metaphysicians/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>alcuin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the loneliness is part of the initiation as well, but too many of us hide in the shadows, and stay alone too long, in silence.  As you said, thank god for the web.  

I&#039;ve heard that the Pythagoreans used to cut an apple in half horizontally in order to recognize one another.  If you do that, there&#039;s a five pointed star inside--the symbol for divine influence on man/matter.  I don&#039;t know if the story is true, but I hope it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the loneliness is part of the initiation as well, but too many of us hide in the shadows, and stay alone too long, in silence.  As you said, thank god for the web.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that the Pythagoreans used to cut an apple in half horizontally in order to recognize one another.  If you do that, there&#8217;s a five pointed star inside&#8211;the symbol for divine influence on man/matter.  I don&#8217;t know if the story is true, but I hope it is.</p>
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