Comments on: The Cave and the Arrow: Chiron Beyond the Wound http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound Astrology with Dawn Bodrogi Wed, 01 May 2013 16:56:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: a http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-4151 a Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:52:25 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-4151 ..."take time and darkness..." a very profound statement. i agree... no wonder only until i got my first saturn return that i got the chance to involve myself into arts... i never realized i can paint, i can cook and sing and etc.... only until now i am able to do this... or i guess having mars squaring sun also makes it difficult for me. …”take time and darkness…” a very profound statement. i agree… no wonder only until i got my first saturn return that i got the chance to involve myself into arts… i never realized i can paint, i can cook and sing and etc…. only until now i am able to do this… or i guess having mars squaring sun also makes it difficult for me.

]]> By: Debora http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-2135 Debora Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:04:49 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-2135 Thank you, Dawn. This two articles are tailormade for my natal. I've always had certain issues that I couldn't explain and this adresses them point by point. The only interaction of Mars (3rd, Sag) that I have is a trine with Chiron in my 7th (aries), Also chiron is the only planet there. Very helpful. Thank you, Dawn. This two articles are tailormade for my natal. I’ve always had certain issues that I couldn’t explain and this adresses them point by point. The only interaction of Mars (3rd, Sag) that I have is a trine with Chiron in my 7th (aries), Also chiron is the only planet there.
Very helpful.

]]> By: Marina Christina http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1295 Marina Christina Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:04:34 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1295 Thanks for an excellent article Dawn, I have always felt that Chiron is the true ruler of Virgo, I know how Mercury resonates having four planets in Gemini but the five I have in Virgo resonate much more to the Chironic energy than that of Mercury...then again maybe I just mix 'em up. I do love the way you write, so clear and with so much heart, I'm looking forward to part two. Thanks for an excellent article Dawn, I have always felt that Chiron is the true ruler of Virgo, I know how Mercury resonates having four planets in Gemini but the five I have in Virgo resonate much more to the Chironic energy than that of Mercury…then again maybe I just mix ‘em up.
I do love the way you write, so clear and with so much heart, I’m looking forward to part two.

]]> By: Monty Renov http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1289 Monty Renov Mon, 01 Aug 2011 04:34:14 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1289 Thanks for your clarification, Dawn. I'll check out the articles you've mentioned. Best wishes, Monty Thanks for your clarification, Dawn. I’ll check out the articles you’ve mentioned.

Best wishes,
Monty

]]> By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1286 Dawn Bodrogi Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:41:28 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1286 Hello Monty, I agree with Ann entirely--the mistake here is that this is not an article about Chiron in general, but specifically one in a series of articles about Chiron in aspect with other planets. This article focuses on what happens when Mars and Chiron are in aspect, either natally or between charts. You might want to read the article, "Chiron, an Overview" (http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/10/01/synastry-studies-chiron-an-overview/) and the one on Chiron in aspect to Venus. The 'Overview' article is in line with what Ann articulated in her comments. There are a number of articles on this site which address Chiron in general. Hello Monty,

I agree with Ann entirely–the mistake here is that this is not an article about Chiron in general, but specifically one in a series of articles about Chiron in aspect with other planets. This article focuses on what happens when Mars and Chiron are in aspect, either natally or between charts. You might want to read the article, “Chiron, an Overview” (http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/10/01/synastry-studies-chiron-an-overview/) and the one on Chiron in aspect to Venus. The ‘Overview’ article is in line with what Ann articulated in her comments. There are a number of articles on this site which address Chiron in general.

]]> By: Monty Renov http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1285 Monty Renov Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:35:06 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1285 Dawn, my FB friend, astrologer Ann Clancy, made the following point after reading the article, which I think is a valid point: "Linking it to Mars is a focus on the wound... sure, Mars severs (wounds)... but imo that really isn't what Chiron is really about... Mars doesn't (know how... can't) acknowledge the healing side, or the empathic and martyr potential side. (My vote is Mercury via Virgo... master healer and teacher... the place where we are better at teaching or helping others than we can do for ourselves) Chiron's orbit weaves between Saturn, and Uranus... the points where the inner visible planets end and collective planets begin. Saturn hints to the idea that time might be involved somehow... Uranus, the sudden shocks inherent to having others around us (an element of "control"/Saturn is sacrificed). It is like the story of the frog and the scorpion (Mars being the scorpion of course... lol) Mars is going to need help of other planetary energies for the individual to access healing. Mars on its own will "fight back"... even if it is to the death... the Mars that refuses the help is the scorpion who lashes out/ stings his frog helper instead of accepting help across the river all the way to the other side (healing)." Dawn, my FB friend, astrologer Ann Clancy, made the following point after reading the article, which I think is a valid point:

“Linking it to Mars is a focus on the wound… sure, Mars severs (wounds)… but imo that really isn’t what Chiron is really about… Mars doesn’t (know how… can’t) acknowledge the healing side, or the empathic and martyr potential side.
(My vote is Mercury via Virgo… master healer and teacher… the place where we are better at teaching or helping others than we can do for ourselves)

Chiron’s orbit weaves between Saturn, and Uranus… the points where the inner visible planets end and collective planets begin. Saturn hints to the idea that time might be involved somehow… Uranus, the sudden shocks inherent to having others around us (an element of “control”/Saturn is sacrificed).

It is like the story of the frog and the scorpion (Mars being the scorpion of course… lol) Mars is going to need help of other planetary energies for the individual to access healing. Mars on its own will “fight back”… even if it is to the death… the Mars that refuses the help is the scorpion who lashes out/ stings his frog helper instead of accepting help across the river all the way to the other side (healing).”

]]> By: Dawn Bodrogi http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1052 Dawn Bodrogi Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:43:42 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1052 Don--yes, absolutely. Acceptance plays a huge part in gaining the wisdom and power of Chiron's position. Don–yes, absolutely. Acceptance plays a huge part in gaining the wisdom and power of Chiron’s position.

]]> By: helen http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1049 helen Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:04:30 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1049 Oh, dear, my Chiron is conjunct my Venus both of them in an opposition to the Moon and all of them having a party along the nodal axis (NN in Libra) The way you write is fascinating. It resonates very strongly with the way I see/feel things. I just remembered that I was charmed by Ancient Greek mythology at a very early age. Then later in high school I wrote an essay comparing Jesus and Prometheus who also accepted immortal endless suffering for the sake of humans. Oh, dear, my Chiron is conjunct my Venus both of them in an opposition to the Moon and all of them having a party along the nodal axis (NN in Libra)
The way you write is fascinating. It resonates very strongly with the way I see/feel things.
I just remembered that I was charmed by Ancient Greek mythology at a very early age. Then later in high school I wrote an essay comparing Jesus and Prometheus who also accepted immortal endless suffering for the sake of humans.

]]> By: Don Musser http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1048 Don Musser Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:07:43 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1048 to heal some wounds we have to recieve them without the response of Mars. to heal some wounds we have to recieve them without the response of Mars.

]]> By: bill http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/06/10/the-cave-and-the-arrow-chiron-beyond-the-wound/#comment-1046 bill Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:40:28 +0000 http://theinnerwheel.com/?p=2171#comment-1046 Well, with Chiron Pluto North Node in 7th House Virgo; I must say you are absolutely 'right on'. Great insights. The most difficult part of all these configurations has been the 'illusions' that these and a Neptune midheaven create. Have had to learn patience and an understanding that perhaps comes from those Piscean past lives that teaches that the whole world is an illusion itself. Which then brings everything down to 'acceptance'. Acceptance that the 'missing piece' may never materialize, and that indeed it is the little things in life that are present each day: the smell of the rose, the touch given the pet etc etc etc are the only real things that anyone has. That is difficult some days, but not always... a great teacher this Bodhisattva Chiron is. Well, with Chiron Pluto North Node in 7th House Virgo; I must say you are absolutely ‘right on’. Great insights. The most difficult part of all these configurations has been the ‘illusions’ that these and a Neptune midheaven create. Have had to learn patience and an understanding that perhaps comes from those Piscean past lives that teaches that the whole world is an illusion itself. Which then brings everything down to ‘acceptance’. Acceptance that the ‘missing piece’ may never materialize, and that indeed it is the little things in life that are present each day: the smell of the rose, the touch given the pet etc etc etc are the only real things that anyone has. That is difficult some days, but not always… a great teacher this Bodhisattva Chiron is.

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