Comments on: First Steps: The Solar Secret Agent

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:18:05 +0000

I wish I could explain the workings of the eighth house to you in this space, but the best I can do is to recommend two books, one is Howard Sassportas’s book on the houses, and the other is Dane Rudhyar’s. You have to understand the houses in terms of a process–it’s a journey that we take from the first house to the twelfth. As the polarity of the 2nd house, it’s not about what we have, but how we share it. (Taxes are shared resources, where we contribute for the good of the all.) How we share ourselves also brings up questions of intimacy. We are meant to be transformed deeply through the 8th house, brought to the brink and back through our interactions with others, so yes, sex. The eighth house is not about death as a final thing, but about death as a transforming energy. (The number 8 is actually the symbol for infinity in disguise.)

The Mars/Pluto/Uranus quincunx you describe is about being capable of this deep, transforming energy, but the energy is erratic and unpredictable. A diving in and then a pulling away from all things 8th house related, including sharing and intimacy. With the Sun conjunct its own dispositor, its expression gets more potent in that house. It’s possible that you don’t understand the 8th house clearly because you are too deeply entrenched in it. Also, those Virgo planets are telling you, “Whoa–don’t get too involved, there.” Now, whether this Virgo discrimination is a negative or positive thing is something that would need to be determined by the rest of the chart.

I’ve written extensively on the fixed houses here. If you want more information about the way the 8th house operates, take a look at the series, “The Fixed Cross and the Urge to Merge.”

By: msfullroller

msfullroller — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:56:02 +0000

I have an 8th house Sun conjunct Mars in Aries. So of course the Sun’s dispositor is in the 8th. Mars is quincunx a tight Uranus/Pluto conjunction in Virgo in the 1st.

This should be easy but I still don’t have a good understanding of the 8th house besides death, sex and taxes. These seem so limiting and empty to me. Do you have any recommendations for deeply understanding my 8th house?

By: Les

Les — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:35:53 +0000

Thanks, Dawn! That’s very helpful.

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:16:23 +0000

Sorry, it’s hard to keep the aspects straight without a chart. The purpose of Mercury is to make connections that commute knowledge to understanding. The position of the 2nd house Sun pours its wisdom regarding values and ownership through Mercury, allowing mental processing of the Venus/Pluto experiences. I would have thought that Venus would be especially receptive, as the 2nd is its natural house. It would facilitate the regeneration of values that Venus/Pluto requires.

By: Les

Les — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:08:01 +0000

Hi Dawn, actually Venus/Pluto are both *conjunct* Mercury in my 1st house (my Sun is in the 2nd). So I guess Mercury helps filter and understand deep – what, identity? – issues with Venus/Pluto?

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:48:01 +0000

Les, those who have Mercury as a solar dispositor have the ability to process things intellectually, and make connections where others might not be able to. The first house Mercury allows you to filter and understand the deep security issues arising from Venus/Pluto in the 2nd. The Sun adds light to Venus/Pluto and creates experiences for it, but it takes Mercury to find some kind of workable answer. The great gift of both Gemini and Virgo is the mind.

By: Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:41:53 +0000

Hi, Dee. It’s almost as if your fifth house Sun (a natural place for the Sun) is trying to pull you into the creative flow of the fifth house, (Cap/5 must build things in a self-expressive way, things that reflect the inner being). But there are issues in the 4th house that you must address first. Saturn conjunct Moon/Mars in the fourth is complicated, emotionally. The hypersensitivity of the position should be turned outward rather than inward, and understood as a seat of power and emotional authenticity. Once it is, the Sun can do it’s job. (It would take a reading, however, to understand all the dynamics involved.)

By: Les

Les — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:36:50 +0000

With a Virgo Sun (2nd house), I have Mercury in Virgo in my first house as solar dispositor. It’s also conjunct Venus and Pluto (both within 2 degrees) – what affect do they have on the solar expression through Mercury in the 1st? Another question: if an out planet is transiting in aspect to the solar dispositor, does that also affect the Sun? I’m experiencing Neptune in a long opposition of my Mercury.

By: Dee

Dee — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:24:25 +0000

Dawn, My natal sun is in Capricorn so the dispositor is Saturn. My Saturn is at 7 Scorpio in the 4th (conjuncting mars and the moon.) Saturn sextiles my natal Sun in the fifth house. I’m at a loss as to what this may mean. I think I’m doubly confused since transiting Pluto has been hitting up my natal mercury, venus and my Sun (9 degrees) in the 5th and mixing me all up. Any ideas? Thanks for your wonderful blog.

By: Jay Linden

Jay Linden — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:16:15 +0000

Wow Dawn – I love your turn of phrase – “feeding the 7th house Uranus” – what a wonderful way to envision this process.

Transiting Uranus is now sextile my sun conjunction from Aries and true to form is initiating change. I’ve recently had several past life regressions which have healed life time patterns and am now training to be a past life therapist myself – so absolutely a surrender and a creative awakening!

Thank you