It goes further to explain the patterns behind the Mars/Saturn developmental phase in male sexual maturity and will continue next month to explore the Venus/Moon phase of female sexual maturity. Briefly, the two cardinal angles of the chart represent the union of male and female and form the axis of matter on the circle of the infinite. The planets ruling those angles, 
Mars/Venus for the Asc/Desc and Moon/Saturn for the IC/MC, are the relationship planets directly responsible for integration of the male and female halves of the psyche. Mars and Venus represent the younger, undeveloped side of the sexual divide. Moon and Saturn represent the mature male and female. We talk a lot about integration of the male and female side of the psyche, astrological synastry is dependent on it. However, the journey from youth to maturity in sexual expression is little spoken of, and has to do with integration of Mars and Saturn in a male and Venus and Moon in a female. In a man’s journey to maturity, we start at Mars (Aries, I) and must move through the Moon (IC) and Venus (Desc) to reach Saturn (MC); he must pass through and integrate/experience the female. The female journey mirrors the male’s. She must go through Saturn and Mars to reach her Moon. However, if we look at the journey of the circle of cardinal signs, there is a “missing quarter” on the map–the empty quarter between Moon and Venus in a woman’s journey, and between Saturn and Mars in a male. In order for sexual maturity to occur, that last step of the journey must be taken, and the two representative planets must work together to process experience and create an understanding. That last quarter gap is what these articles will be about. This time we tackle the struggle between Mars and Saturn.
I have said it often and I will say it again: Saturn is a grown-up Mars. And our relationships, as well as our lives, would be a lot less complicated if we took that idea on board.
Alas, Saturn is most often seen in this culture as the anti-Mars, the thing that gets in the way. Want to do something, anything? Saturn will be there to stop you, or at least give you a good argument about why you shouldn’t go there. Not exactly Mr. Enthusiasm, is our Saturn. At the worst (least mature) end of the spectrum, Saturn is about repression of the genuine Self, denigrating individual responsibility for a collective one and doing the responsible, culturally acceptable (i.e. ‘boring) thing. It’s the difference between ‘want’ to do (Mars is all about want) and ‘have’ to do, and when the ‘have to’s win out, Saturn is there. He’s the anti-individual. Alas, Saturn’s true face is one of mastery and inner authority, of genuine action stemming from soul need, but we tend not to look at him that way in this culture. And so his magic is lost and he becomes the burden we try to shift, avoid or shed. He represents what is old, tired, and entrenched in the past. Who would want to embrace that?
Mars is about our impulses and our desires, sexual and otherwise. Mars uses the body as a playground. Mars unleashed instinctively knows what it craves and runs after it, damn the consequences. Mars is our great motivator, and is the reason we move forward in great leaps and bounds, rather than in the careful, monitored steps that Saturn recommends. With Mars, we take risks, and laugh at perils. With Mars we make our move, and we can be innocently unaware of what is considered appropriate behavior. We all, male and female, have Mars influencing our charts in a greater or lesser degree–how well we understand his behaviour and his needs is a mark of maturity. When we are young, we’re all impulse, and Saturn’s duty is to hone those impulses and that misplaced energy into something useful. Mars wants freedom, but not freedom for its own sake, like Uranus. He wants the freedom to act, and to act on his instincts. However, Mars conveniently looks away from the consequences of his actions–it’s not his job. When Mars eats the entire pepperoni pizza, it’s Saturn who gets the indigestion. As I mentioned, these two forces in the chart react against one another, even when there is no aspect between them. If you have a strong Saturn and a strong Mars in your chart, you know what I mean.
Mars in aspect to Saturn may be one of the more complicated aspects to sort out in synastry or within a single chart. The reason is that Saturn has desires, too. He has his own agenda to carry out, and he will manipulate you to do it his way if he has to. He will seduce and desire and chase after you (or something he wants) with all the heat of an ‘inflamed Mars’ (Liz Green’s words) if he decides he needs you. You will be mesmerized and seduced, until Saturn gets what it wants and then you will be dropped like a hot potato, waking up dazed with your behind on the cold ground and no one to help you up. Did I mention he is the controller extraordinaire? Both Saturn and Mars can be bad boys…very bad boys…and when Saturn’s needs conflict with the needs and impulses of Mars, we’re asking for trouble. Both can be violent, or draw violent reaction, if necessary for their own agenda.
When they get together, one scenario is the tug of war that goes nowhere. “Want to’ fights “have to.” This is often what happens when the conjunction is involved, especially by progression. If your Mars and your Saturn line up by progression, you are in for several years of major frustration where everything on Earth seems to be falling in the path of your progress. Saturn is trying to get Mars to go along with the programme, especially if Mars has been a bit ‘out there’ and willful and uncooperative–in which case Saturn now has him cornered and won’t let go. However, if Saturn is the chart heavyweight here, and has always won out over instinct and impulse, Mars might just fight back. And maybe it’s the thing Saturn needs, to be infused with a little excitement again and persuaded to come out from under that cloak of fear and habitual restriction. Even under the best circumstances, under a trine or a sextile, Mars and Saturn will be arguing the agenda–but they will find it easier to eventually agree on a path of action. Mars will always chafe at any restriction, and Saturn always feels it knows better what needs to be done, until they can agree on a mutual goal and direct their considerable energy.
In relationships, the difficulties come when life circumstances shake us out of our habitual patterns and an agreement between these two needs to happen. The two arguing archetypes reach a stalemate and need to come to terms with one another. However, their first instinct is to fight, and this is why the brokenhearted find their way to the astrologer’s door. Because these two are relationship planets, the split often projects itself onto relationships and the natural issues that arise when two people try to form a future together. I’ve found it fascinating, over the years, how often we project this internal conflict about embracing the more mature archetype on to our partners, especially in the years between the progressed lunar return (age 28) and the Uranus opposition at around age 42. (Crisis in relationship regarding this conflict tends to cluster around the nodal return at 37.) Women have no easier a time shifting from Venus back to the Moon, which we will see next time. In both cases we find the partner “oppressive” and/or “restrictive” which feeds back in to parental modeling–no surprises, considering the planets we’re dealing with.
When there is fallout from the actions of Mars, Saturn awakens. Saturn pulls back from the initial impulse, and tries to gain clarity. Sometimes the awakening is a sobering one, as in “My god, what have I done?” or “I didn’t want it to go this far.” Sometimes, there is pleasure in what was gained, but the additional responsibility for the actions involved is enough to engender fear. Fear of what? Fear of change (this is Saturn, after all), and fear of losing what’s been gained. If the time is ripe for a relationship to occur (via transit or progression), the fear factor is often made worse, not better. “But if I lose what I’ve gained because I turn away from it, then how is that any better than losing it in another way?” No one said this was a logical process. Walking away, however, gives Saturn the illusion of control, and he likes that.
Women tend to embrace relationships (of all kinds) often without thinking about the consequences of them. The Moon/Venus aspect of the female psyche makes her receptive and inclusive. Because of the result-oriented Mars/Saturn aspect governing the male psyche, the consequences of relationship are very much at the forefront, and its possible to experience an internal tug of war between the pure desire impulse of Mars and the added responsibility whispered by Saturn. Not that men don’t give themselves over to relationship–of course they do, all the time. There is no love without surrender, and defenses come down. But it seems, for the guarded male psyche, it’s a much more frightening and precipitous fall. As Jung pointed out, there is also a ruthlessness to the male psyche that the female is often unaware of, and I attribute this astrologically to the tug of war between Mars/Saturn. It will cut and run, especially if it’s uncertain.
Relationships stimulate our growth, and our relationships are directly related to the activity of Mars/Saturn and Moon/Venus in the psyche. Relationships stimulate change in the way these planets cooperate (or not) with one another, but often we go backwards before we go forwards. The consequences of the Mars/Saturn split is that there is a huge grey area before commitment (where in the female psyche this area can be just a blip in the landscape plastered over with fantasies about how things will be). A man who has experienced too much Saturn in his life and has been denied the chance to explore his individuality and his Martian side may be opened by relationship to a whole new aspect of himself, a place where Mars rules and Saturn’s voice is quashed, or at least quieted temporarily. Another man who has been too much involved in the Mars side of life will be opened to the more responsible, authoritative side of his personality by relationship, and at once fear and desire it. These are usually the ‘I don’t want to lose your friendship” types [when this phrase is not being used as a kind substitute for ‘I don’t want to get involved with you.’] The endless potential of the current status of the relationship is much more seductive than being faced with the out and out failure of losing the one thing that is emotionally sustaining. Mars, and the sea of vast and infinite potential, wins.
Needless to say, a man’s relationship to his own father, and to any authority figures, has much to say about the way Saturn works in the relationship stakes and whether Mars/Saturn become integrated. The parental marriage is a model of the psyche, and if it has been particularly challenging, there may be a deep desire to avoid the whole thing. If a man has been put into the role of being responsible for ‘mother,’ there are also Saturn issues at stake (needless to say, this pops up with Moon/Saturn/Mars especially).
When Mars/Saturn learn to work together, it is a beautiful thing. Desire, responsibility, and personal integrity work hand in hand towards shared goals, and the result can be especially attractive to the opposite sex. Saturn no longer has to hide its inner mastery, and can shed its crust of fear and restriction. It is comfortable in its own skin, the real sign of authenticity. Mars gets the excitement of working at full speed towards a goal, which, for Mars, becomes more like a holy crusade, especially with Saturn backing it up. Responsibility becomes honour. Sometimes, with Mars/Saturn, the issue is really about focus. A few well-placed questions to the soul about what is ultimately wanted and needed from this life can do wonders on the path of effortless and elegant action, which is what the partnership of Mars/Saturn is all about. The Cardinal Path to Sexual Maturity: Mars/Saturn
fascinating how this applied so well to me, a woman – I look forward to the Moon Venus flightpath.
In Part Two, I’m going to talk a bit how and why these conflicts apply to all of us. Men also have to come to terms with Moon/Venus. It’s difficult for all of us to accept the more mature archetypes for both sexes, especially within this culture.
This is a great article. I have to say: there is really no way to not have an outer planet in synastry touch your angles or inner planets. And everyone has awful things to say about them all: Neptune, the liar, the seducer, the illusion that will drown you. Pluto will transform you through pain and regeneration, Uranus will disappear and not be stable or reliable, and Saturn sill halt you and lock you down with responsibilities that are plain drudgery . There is no avoiding! So wait her in synastry or composite we are all screwed. I have to say out of all of them it is Neptune who is the true villain. It will take everything from you. At least Pluto and Saturn leave you with a new reality and some tools. Uranus Zapps you with a bolt but Neptune slowly drags you out to sea to drown you and who ever you came with. If you have Neptune in your synastry: please: it’s not spiritual union, it’s not shared art it’s deception! Run! Don’t fall for it.
Dawn I’ve read horror stories about Mars/Saturn aspects in synergy, regardless of the aspect type–specifically Liz Green’s excellent work. Your article actually makes the nature of the aspect sound a bit more optimistic if the participants are mature or aware enough to understand it.How does the aspect actually play out and what type of awareness is required?
As you know Dawn, Mars/Saturn is prominent in my chart. I’m still trying to figure it out,and this helps me more than the recognition that I frequently miss an opportunity because I am insisting that something meet some standard or “the way it should be”. And then sometimes I leap without looking.
Hi Lorie–that’s a big question, an entire chapter could be written about it. If between charts, it’s important for people to understand and ‘own’ their own energy. Both Mars and Saturn have to be aware of their impact on one another (which is where astrology really helps). Mars will have a tendency to irritate Saturn and Saturn will quash Mars in some way. If Saturn understands that Mars’s impulses are needed and valid, and if Mars understands that Saturn is working for the best, this interaspect can work. Within a chart, as with Pam’s comment above, Saturn has to stop acting as the gatekeeper and allow Mars to follow his intuition. It isn’t an easy pairing, but time and experience help.
Hi Dawn,
I came back to your blog again after a couple of months and it “dawned” upon me how much I miss my astrology fix ! Everything makes such utter logical sense – a tight sun conjunction mercury (conjunct Saturn ha !) natal makes “sense” almost a cornerstone of my mental makeup. However with Venus square Neptune almost to the degree alongside this Sun-Mercury-Saturn (in Cancer) aspect, relationships and at times their senselessness totally bewilder me. You post was very helpful, I am dealing with someone with a close Mars trine Saturn natal.
I missed your courses this summer, the ones on synastry and progressions. Your class listing page say the next classes on progressions is Oct ’11, but I don’t see any such classes in the announcement page. When may we expect these, I am interests in both synastry and progression classes.
Thanks,
Suzy
Hi Suzy,
Thanks for the kind words. Your timing is perfect. I will announce the Progressions One course a little later today.
I have Mars and Saturn in Scorpio and this is so mysterious to me… I don’t always understand Saturn’s place here. I never really have. I have Scorpio Ascendant and Pluto Scorpio also…
An entire book could be written about Mars and Saturn in Scorpio. But one of the main themes of this configuration is a lifetime of learning how to put that passion, intensity and focus towards something constructive–to pursue things (and people!) not for the sake of the ego but for the sake of the Soul’s needs. Scorpio is a testing energy, continually on a search for its own particular kind of purity, which has nothing to do with purity as we generally define it. With both Mars and Saturn there (and with Scorpio rising) there is a need to hone desire, intention, action to its ultimate form, so that there is an intimate connection between intention and result. The house these two fall in will play a large part in the lessons to be learned. Saturn in Scorpio brooks no nonsense and takes no prisoners; if Mars is to work with a Scorpio Saturn effectively, he needs to clean up his act.
My daughter and her bf:
He has no mars saturn contacts. Mars rules his dsc.
His mars sits right on her sun and venus which are trined to her saturn. So her saturn trines his mars. He speaks of himself as “becoming a better person” on behalf of her effect on him.
Hi Dawn,
This is post is fascinating. The man I’m interested in has a Pluto, Saturn conjunction oppose Mars in Aries (which also happened to be his Sun ruler). I feel the tug and pull and also this conflict between fear and desire in him. Every time I get closer, he would run away!
My progressed Sun now sits right on his Mars, and I have Moon, Saturn and Mars all in Scorpio.
Would love to hear what you think and your thoughts to better understand these dynamics. Thanks heaps.
Pluto/Saturn opposite an Aries Mars would be very difficult to live with. Every time you followed your Mars and reached out impulsively in an Aries way, your soul would be pulling you back into your fears of relating, and you would feel as if everything you have would crumble if you let go. Pluto/Saturn doesn’t let us build anything that isn’t directly connected to the soul rather than the ego, but Mars is all about the ego. Very challenging, especially in relationships. You want to go your own way and be independent (Aries) but you are forced to face the very thing that terrifies you (being involved in the compromise of relationship. Your progressed Sun on his natal Mars, plus all your natal Scorpio planets, should teach him how to reconcile these inner conflicts, but unless he’s ready and willing to learn and compromise, whatever is between you may be to hot to handle right now.
Forgot to mention that there is also a trine from Neptune to Mars to ease the opposition a bit.
I would think it would only confuse the issue. It’s bad enough when you do know what you want, but if you don’t, you can get into real hot water with these aspects. Far from relieving the pressure, Neptune’s influence would only add a good dose of fog to the mix, so a person ends up not really knowing what he wants. (Trines represent ‘flow’ but they are not always the good guys. Sometimes trines add fuel to a fire.)
Thanks Dawn. Your insight is always very appreciated.
I didn’t know what to make of it. Most of the materials I have come across interpret these aspects separately and focus too much on the sexual manifestation and not enough on the psychological. (Except for Liz Greene’s)
Is the fear of Saturn/Pluto mainly stem from the fear of losing control and abandonment?
Fortunately and unfortunately for me, I don’t give up easily. Pluto is also in Scorpio in the 8th….
Yes, a lot has to do with losing control and abandonment. But some of it has to do with fearing what the soul actually requires of us, which often means stripping us away from the ego’s desires. It’s often frightening to face the truth of yourself. Even if we hear the sound of our own drummer, we often turn away.
Now thinking about that Neptune. All the confusion also gets projected onto me. My natal Sun Neptune square is activated too, and I tend to be a bit lost and fuzzy when I see him.
Hi again Dawn,
I wonder if mars-saturn-moon combo in a woman’s charts acts similarly? I have saturn-opposition mars and saturn-trine moon in my chart, and I felt like a mother of my mother..
.Well, your last sentences hit the cord, I know from experience that when I put these energies (mars-saturn) together, I am quite instoppable. But it’s very rare, and most of the times I don’t know where to go and hit the invisible walls. I also have a sun-neptune opposition and it’s very difficult for me to know what my soul truly needs due to this neptunian fog…Any advice?
Just got out of an absolutely awful situation (notice I didn’t refer to it as a relationship) with guy whose Saturn (natally square his Jupiter) conjuncts my Sun/Mars/Neptune/Juno and squares my Chiron, opposes my Uranus. Repressed and repressing…jealous of your life force…run for your life!
great post dawn- thank you! you are my favorite teacher 🙂
…I have saturn square mars and moon in composite that other wise is realy triny ( accept pluto square venus)
all astrology written information mark this as the “run for the hills” aspect that will come to no good.
I wonder what do you think about saturn square mars in composite?….
Thank you….
I have a natal cancer mars conjunct Saturn in tenth house, and have always lived strictly according to rules. At the end of my fourth decade now, I always wondered how I never lived impulsively or lived the fun teenager years everyone talks about. I was always the serious responsible one. Struggling with routine and discipline now, and Pluto In first house, going through the dark night of the soul now. I am looking forward to reading your Venus moon for women, but can’t locate it.
The Venus/Moon article is being rewritten due to information I’ve discovered regarding the four major asteroids. One cannot have full maturity without tackling the goddesses in relation to Venus and the Moon.
What if there is no partner? Then there is no such development? Probably in my case no such development, because my Mars sesquiquadrates my Saturn. Perhaps this even helps to keep partners away, because they would bring my Mars out like was explained in the article, because of too much Saturn in my life. This is shown by Saturn square to the AC, so also to the DC, and this also means Mars sesquiquadrate AC and semisquare DC. I think this aspect pattern (between Mars, Saturn, and rising) has a name, but I don’t know it. So there are hard aspects of Mars and Saturn on my DC and who would want them to be projected on her? It is so unfair that the male principle has only the malefics. This must make lifes of men harder.
Often when I read about relationships and their purposes, which are shown in the synastry, and the work, which they require, then I think that it is probably better not having any relationship.
Hi, this was amazing and very enlightening to the purpose of the relationship I’m in for nearly 3 years.
It’s been hard and frustrating for both sometimes!
My Mars is square his Saturn/SN, good thing they are in their own triplicity and in each others terms. Square operates in signs of short ascension so acts it more like a sextile. Communication can help sort the out the square.
My Saturn is exact parallel his Mars (Them are 6degrees away of squaring)
Then my Moon opposes his Venus and his Moon Square my Venus.
Looks like we have all the female/male maturity versus youth going both ways!
I’ve got Moon trine Mars and Saturn trine Venus in my natal.
I feel I know how to have a great and unworried time when all my responsibilities have been met. On the other way around, he tries to have a good time when he should be still, like when he’s short of money and has responsibilities and is not focusing on them and when he is OK he’s all ambition driven and doesn’t enjoy himself!
I had to work on acceptance of his limitations plus keep on learning on how to push his buttons in a nice way! 🙂 if you know what I mean!
Our composite offers Saturn conjunct Moon in the 6th trine Sun(7h ruler). I like that!
Venus in Pisces, Lady of 5H e 10h trine Uranus. I believe we can have an exciting relationship while having a deep committed relationship. Mars/chiron in Aries conjunct IC!
Composite Sun is conjunct Lilith, I feel we have a relationship Labeled’ as traditional as others but…it seems that the relationship has a mind of it’s own and it has it’s own agenda!
Sorry if off topic, could you shade some light on this aspect?
Anyway, it has been a wild ride that I’d never thought I’d race but life thrown it at both of us when we both need it the most.
Thank you for your blog and eye opening advice!
The key here is what is his Mars doing with his own Saturn? Will he ever grow up? Will he be able to have the mature relationship you clearly wish for? The jury is still out. All the Saturn in the world in your chart is not going to change him. It has to come from within. Remember that the composite chart is only a potential, not a guarantee.
Hi,
Just came across this when looking for Mars Saturn conjunct synastry. However, we also have composite Mars Saturn conjunct and wondered what that meant for the relationship dynamic?
Thank you for your valuable insights which have taught me so much more interesting interpretations in some difficult and villianized aspects.
All the best Jennifer
That would depend on how strong either planet is, which one is stronger, and what houses they rule in the charts.
Hi Dawn,
What would you make of a Mars / Saturn / Neptune / Uranus conjunction in Capricorn – very saturnian heay. Mars is ruler of the seventh house…
Thank you!
-Caroline
Usually, when there is Saturn involved with the outer planets, there is some kind of ‘split’ where the integration of the conjunction is difficult to come by. Mars/Saturn is a frustrating aspect at best, even though it can be disciplined. Uranus and Neptune will try to pull it to a higher level, but may not be able to, depending on how entrenched Saturn is. Difficult to interpret without looking at the whole chart. I would think relationships are highly unpredictable.
Hello, Dawn.
How would you interpret a Saturn in Sagittarius squaring a Mars in Pisces in a synastry chart?
Effortless and elegant. Beautiful.
Thank you for your kind words.
Hi Dawn,
Longitudinally, I have Mars in Cancer in the 8th House as 6 min. approaching opposition to Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th House. In declinations, the planets are (reinforced as being) in contra-parallel. It is a night chart where Saturn is out-of-sect – in fact, by the three measuring criteria, ex-conditione. Mars and Saturn connect up with my Libran Moon in a wide orbed T-square of almost exactly 7 1/2 degrees on both sides. The opposition also manifests in the center (is the backbone) of a Black Kite geometric configuration that constitutes Saturn semisquare Chiron, Saturn semisquare Venus, 6th House Venus in Scorpio square Chiron in Aquarius in the 10th, Venus sesquiquadrate Mars, and Mars sesquiquadrate Chiron. As deduced from the above, Mars is the apex planet. Amazingly, all of the aspects in the configuration are less than 20 min. away from exact (note, though, all aspects are separating, except Mars-Saturn) and are reinforced (dual) in strength by making hard aspects when the heliocentric positions are considered. Mars-Saturn also combines with Uranus-Chiron (4th to 10th House approaching aspect; close T-square with Venus; further to mention Chiron is the only retrograde planet in the chart) in a criss-cross opposition in a hard rectangular configuration constituting the Saturn-Chiron semisquare, Saturn sesquiquadrate Uranus, Uranus semisquare Mars, and the Mars sesquiquadrate Chiron aspect mentioned previously.
In the heliocentric chart, Mars (in Gemini in the 12th House) and Saturn (still in Capricorn and the 8th – joined now as combination as stellium with Venus, Juno, and Jupiter) are again in hard aspect as a sesquiquadrate – 37 min. out and approaching. It is part of a hard triangle where the other sesquiquadrate is Saturn-Pluto (2 degree 53 min. orb), and the connecting square in the configuration is Mars-Pluto (3 degrees 30 min. orb) – all aspects are approaching. furthermore, the hard rectangle connects up flush to Mars-Pluto where the approaching opposition is Pluto-Chiron (5 degree 39′ orb) and the other square as Mars-Chiron (separating aspect at 2 degree 9′ orb). Finally, in the latitudes, rounded, Saturn is at 0.13N and Mars at 0.26N, making the planets not only quite strongly parallel, but also parallel with the Earth-Moon complex. As side note, Uranus is also parallel with Mars, and Jupiter parallel with Saturn and Mars in computation.
To cut to the chase, after all the nauseating details (sorry!), I married late – at nearly 49. I was sexually assaulted by my partner within a year of the union. Even to this day, after initially denying that it happened, (s)he says that it was done out of love. It took my partner about three years for sorry to pass the lips. I even tried to put the words in his/her mouth but to no avail. The upshot is that the marriage has hung on for eight years. In trying to extricate, my partner sobs uncontrollably, hugs my feet, and says (s)he will commit suicide if I leave (the composite chart I have done says we have a strongly Plutonian relationship (Pluto sits in the 7th House in a 7 min. approaching conjunction to the Descendant, and Chiron sits in th12th House and only 56 min. away from the Ascendant: an approaching opposition of 1 degree 3 min.) What does this have to do with Mars-Saturn opposition? Many things but I will mention only one. I remember growing up how angry my father always was, and how intimidated, and even to a degree how afraid I was of the displays. He never beat me though and I really do love him. Throughout my life, anger would boil to the surface but I would be able to put the lid back on shortly thereafter. The intimacy of marriage was the pressure cooker and the precipitating trigger was the rape (to be accurate, should encompass the emotional coercion to have sex leading up to the explicit violation). The fuse was lit and I exploded and have been exploding ever since with constant simmering anger and frequent uncontrollable outbursts of hateful rage. I feel like a mother of all volcanoes that blew its nuclear thick cover off, breaking it into countless granules of waste. The lava has been flowing, unstoppable and dangerously out of control, burying the nuclear family (my partner and his/her dependent/blind mother we moved in with as “caretakers” after her husband died about 5 years ago) I united with 8 years ago. I credit my pursuit of greater understanding, of astrology for making me aware of very uncomfortable truths, but now action must be taken to leave what has been all around dysfunctionally poisonous. If you have the patience to read this excessively long comment (giving me just a bit of catharsis), Dawn, and care to comment I would appreciate it. Much thanks.
I’m sorry for your experiences but you must understand that it would be irresponsible of me to comment without analyzing the whole chart. I hope you find the strength and understanding to move on.
Correction of the above, the heliocentric configuration of Mars-Pluto square, and two sesquiquadrates (Mars-Saturn and Saturn-Pluto) constitutes a hard triangle (not hard rectangle as misstated above. Although it can be largely concluded from above, geocentrically, my Pluto is in Virgo in the 4th House (nothing to do with Mars-Saturn, but, perhaps, germane to any broad analysis attempted) and Moon is in the 5th House.