The Chart Workshop section usually posts on Sunday, but I won’t have an opportunity tomorrow so here it is, a day early.
Question: “I just don’t understand the progressed chart at all. I look at it and I don’t get it. What does this have to do with me? Transits make sense. This doesn’t.”
Judith, New Jersey
That’s a big question. From what I get from my students, a lot of new astrologers feel this way. I can understand how, looking at the natal and then looking at the progressed chart, the two might seem entirely 
unrelated. But they aren’t. They’re very much related. In fact, you can’t look at the progressed chart without taking it back to the natal. It’s relation to the natal is everything. It is the natal chart itself moved on in time. You don’t look the same now as you did when you were born. Your natal chart, too, has grown. But you’re still you.
Your natal chart shows who you are, but your progressed chart shows you where you are now. You have moved on in your life. The progressed chart shows how you’ve moved on, according to a measurement of time. The progressed chart reveals nothing more nor less than the slow unfolding of your spiritual development. It’s the big picture. It’s also the ‘why’ to the natal chart’s ‘what’ and the transit’s ‘how’. Have you ever anticipated a big transit, and wondered after it was all over why it never manifested in any significant way? That’s because the planet was not primed to maximum impact according to the progressed chart. The progressed chart outlines the bigger issues. Sometimes a relatively small transit will affect our lives significantly. Again, that will show via progression, particularly if it’s a repeated theme in the natal (i.e. I have Mercury semi-square Pluto at birth. Mercury then progresses to a square with natal and then progressed Pluto. Those Mercury/Pluto issues will come to life at that time, particularly if something is transiting the natal or progressed aspect.) The most important factors in the progressed chart are the progressed Sun and the progressed Moon. The best description of them comes from Stephen Arroyo, who called the progressed Sun the hour hand and the progressed Moon the minute hand on the clock face of our lives. The Sun represents our current spiritual identity, the engine of the soul, and the progressed Moon indicates the means of our spiritual growth. (These are simplistic answers but will do for now.) When the progressed Sun aspects anything in the natal or progressed chart, it will illuminate the issues surrounding that planet or point. The progressed Moon also has a similar and often immediate impact. Both act as catalysts to our becoming, whether the shifts occur in the outer world or in our deepest selves.
Progressed charts have been falling out of favour somewhat, which is a crime. No one wants to take the time to think about them, in these days of instant answers. But it’s like throwing out the baby with the complicated bathwater. Frankly, speaking for myself, I wouldn’t attempt to do an analysis without it. How can you advise someone if you don’t know the state of their inner being, or what the soul is requiring us to focus on?
The progressed chart moves one symbolic day for one symbolic year of life. At age 30, the progressed chart reveals what is occuring 30 days after my birth. Why should this work? One symbolic turn of the earth (day) equals one symbolic cycle of the earth around the Sun (year). The outer is equal to the inner, the lesser to the greater. As above, so below.
I have a hunch that folks have a resistance to progressions these days because they in fact delineate the natural limitations of our lives. Intellectually, we know that we can’t live forever, but most of us live our lives as if we can. The progressed chart outlines our natural limits. In a life span, how many years can we expect to live? Let’s say we live to 90–the progressed Sun moves at roughly one day per year, so the chart at ninety days will move the Sun 90 degrees. That’ s a generous limit of my life span, and the planets there at the ninety day mark will delineate the limits of my existence. If the progressed Sun will only ever move 90 degrees within my lifetime, how important then is it when the progressed Sun changes signs, or houses, or makes aspects to planets? My Virgo natal Sun will progress to learn the relationship/balance lessons of Libra. Thirty years later, it will take the accumulated knowledge and move on to learn the intensity and focus of Scorpio. I remain a Virgo, but a Virgo who has evolved through the tests of the following signs and other planets that may reside there. The same goes for Mercury, Venus, Mars. The progressed Moon moves relatively quickly and shows us what we are focused on right now. Progressed aspects to the natal chart matter, but hard aspects between progressed planets come alive in a unique way. They are great indicators of change, both inner and outer.
Ignoring Jupiter, Saturn and the outer planets in progression is a common mistake. Those slower moving planets may make aspects in my natal chart, and when the slower planets move into exactitude, either by direct or retrograde movement, fireworks result. I may have a Saturn/Pluto opposition at birth within a few degrees, but when slow moving progressed Pluto moves into an exact aspect (within minutes) with slow moving progressed Saturn, all of the issues surrounding my Saturn/Pluto and the houses involved will be highlighted in my life. When this progressed aspect is transited by other planets, the stress will be the most intense. I’ve seen amazing things happen to people whose outer planet aspects became exact by progression.
How we find progressed angles and what methods we use is a complicated business, too complicated to get into within the space of a blog. Whatever method you use, remember that progressed angles, like natal angles, are electric, and when they touch something or something touches them it is immediately taken into our lives. If a progressed angle moves to touch a natal or progressed planet, that planet then becomes a driving archetype for that space of time (often a three year period, if not more). Again, transits to these configurations will intensify the lessons.
One of the easiest and most interesting tests of the progressed chart is to trace transits to it, particularly of the Sun and/or Mars. See if that doesn’t awaken your understanding of how the progressed chart illustrates your life.
I’m finishing up a book on progressions right now. My aim in writing that book is to clarify all the current confusion around progressions and allow people to make more holistic sense of them. We’ll also be tackling progression questions here in the near future, so stay tuned.
Have you published your book yet?
Not yet, Carole. I’m still editing it. I’ll make an announcement when the book is available. I’ve re-tooled the book from my original concept of it to make it more accessible, so it will be a while.
I am looking forward to your book
Except for reference and relating to it, why use the Natal? Wouldn’t the Progressed be the one to use for the now? And the same for having moved–a Relocation chart? Then, 3rd, wouldn’t my chart of choice to watch transits to be my Progressed Relocated?
Thanks for clarification.
it can’t be stressed enough that the progressed chart is meaningless without relating it to the natal. It reveals how we’re moving on from our natal positions. The natal chart is always the core of our being–it’s our map to our becoming. The progressed chart tells us where we are in relation to that, how far we’ve come. Using the progressed chart alone would be a distortion–the water without the glass. It takes time, experience and effort to interpret a progessed chart properly. You can’t just read it like a natal chart. It isn’t an absolute, like the natal. You can find the stress factors without relating it to the natal, but you won’t find the why and how of them.
Yeah Dawn, can’t wait to get your book when it is out, you are indeed the queen of progressions. I just bought Robert Blasche’s book on the subject, but I find it a bit unavailable, however it is interesting. He uses the tertiary and minor progressions as well. Do you ever look into those?
Robert is a terrific astrologer, and I’m sure if you went for a counseling session with him, you would be happy with the result. However, I believe that he is using the tertiary and minor progressions to discover what can be more easily found with a more spiritual interpretation of the standard secondaries. For me, working with the tertiaries and minor progressions is ‘just more stuff’ though in the right hands I’m sure it’s illuminating. I don’t use them, though.I went through a decade of comparing them to the standard secondaries, and didn’t find that it revealed anything new–just more detail on what was already there. If you’re using them for prediction, then yes, they’re great, they pinpoint days and hours. But I don’t do that.
Having studied astrology for some 20 years, progressions for some reason have never quite grabbed my attention until recently. I found your blog by chance whilst looking for articles about progressions and really like your explanation and way of working with them. I am thoroughly looking forward to reading your book when it comes out.
Hi Dawn,
Which method of progressions do you use? Naibod in RA or SA in Long or SA in RA? I am very confused with these three methods (I know how to calculate all three, but which is accurate! or has worked for well known astrologers like you?). with Naibod in RA, my prog asc is at 29 Pisces and with SA in long its at 4 degrees Aries. I dont know how I feel with this, so i can answer for myself. looking to understand which one worked for you. Thanks!
Hi, Advaitha–
I understand why you would be confused. A lot of very experienced astrologers don’t know the difference between the methods. The fact is that each method gives you a different emphasis. There is no wrong or right, it just depends on what you’re looking for.
There really isn’t time to go into the differences here. For the most part, either method in RA is, for me, the most legitimate. It takes latitude as well as longitude into consideration, and has to do with the actual movement of the Sun to the MC. I use Naibod in RA almost exclusively, unless someone is asking me something externally/predictive oriented. Then I might use the SA in RA (for example, ‘will I get fired?’) The Naibod in RA arc is, I’ve found, the best one to use for inner work and spiritual work. The SA progressions, in general, seem to work ‘faster’ than the person absorbs the energy. Things ‘happen’ from the outside because we are not prepared for them yet. But when you’re trying to help someone understand the changes they’re undergoing, the Naibod in RA measurement has always worked for me. Naibod in RA is what astro.com uses as a default, and is in common use outside of the U.S.
Whatever method you use doesn’t affect the planetary positions. The method of progression only affects the angles. (Granted, this is crucial.)Progressed angles are directed according to what measurement you choose, not actually progressed. The Naibod arc is a mean measurement that takes in the relative motion of the Sun, which is different at different times of the year.
You might want to look at Naibod in RA as your basic, internal progression (with Neptune as the chart ruler most intense in your chart right now, as it’s about to leave), and then look at SA in RA as event-oriented, but not as internally integrated. The shift from Neptune to Mars will happen gradually over a period of several years, but I’ll bet if you concentrate, you’ll feel when that Aries/Mars energy kicks in.
Hi Dawn,
Thanks for the quick reply. Just to clarify, when you say SA in RA, are you referring to Solar arc directions? As you mentioned ‘event oriented’, I am thinking you mean Solar arc directions for event oriented, and secondary progressions for inner/spiritual evolvement. You dont mean the ‘SA in Longitude’ method, which is another way of progressing a chart, in secondary progressions?
just curious, when calculating secondary progressions, which method do you use to progress (calculate) angles? “Naibod in RA” or “SA in Long” (otherwise called Solar arc in longitude!). Again, thanks for the quick and detailed reply. Helps much!
No, Advaitha. SA in RA is a method of moving the progressed angles–it moves the angles via solar movement with compensations for right ascension (time and place). There are four common methods for calculating progressed angles–Solar Arc in Longitude, Solar Arc in Right Ascension, Naibod in Longitude and Naibod in Right Ascension. I only use right ascension methods, for reasons that we cover in my progressions classes but are too complicated to explain here.
Directions and progressions are two entirely different things. In astrological terms, any direction moves the chart in terms of an agreed measurement. Solar Arc directions move every planet in the chart, and every angle, according to the Solar longitude movement from the time of birth. This leaves you with a chart that looks exactly like your own chart, only all of the degrees are different because you’ve moved everything along according to one numerical value.
Secondary progressions are something else entirely. Progressed planetary positions are the actual movement of the planets put forward from the time of birth, according to the time you’re looking at. They reflect actual positions in the actual sky, moved on from the time you were born. It’s the entire chart ‘grown up’. The Solar Arc chart never existed. The secondary progressed chart did, once upon a time. The secondary progressed chart takes one day to represent one year of life. One solar circuit. The solar arc measurement is a valid movement, but an arbitrary one.
I use the Naibord Arc in Right Ascension for almost all of my work, unless a client wants something specific, where then I will take a look a a secondary progressed chart with the angles calculated via Solar Arc in Right Ascension.
I rarely, if ever, pay attention to Solar Arc directions, because the progressions tell you so much more, if you know how to use them properly.
It’s confusing, because the so-called ‘progressed’ angles are actually directed, moved forward via different measurements of the Sun’s movement, and then the houses are calculated according to this directed movement. This is why the angles are so powerful in progressions. It’s the movement of the Sun’s intent, with the power of the evolving planets working within it.
Solar arc directions are valid, but it’s secondary progressions that give you the meaning of the chart at any given time, the ‘why’ of what is happening in terms of a lifetime of spiritual unfolding. You may want to take my class in secondary progressions, which I’m offering again in the autumn. All of this will become a lot more clear.
I just realized that I’ve gone from an emphasis on earth (5 planets, including Sun, Merc, Venus and Mars) and fire (3, including Moon) in my natal chart to an emphasis on water in my progressed chart – 5 including Sun, Merc and Venus in Scorpio all now in my natal 4th house, and Moon now at 13 Cancer. It was the Moon moving into Cancer that really made me feel emotionally waterlogged! Super-sensitive, inward, and secretive. (My natal Leo Moon/Ascendant probably most at odds with this.) So how do you balance out an emphasis on one element when it’s in your progressed chart? Or do you think I just go with the water and see where it takes me? I’m also in the midst of long series of transits by Neptune to my Mars and moving to other personal planets.
Hi leslee,
There is a huge difference between the natal chart and the progressed chart in that the natal chart shows us our potential and challenges, but the progressed chart is simply where we are and where we need to be to face up to the those challenges. The challenges we experience via the progressed chart are where we are now as far as our own development is concerned. Basically, if you have a lot of water now, you need to learn to swim. You’re in a time of incorporating water/Neptune into all of your natal earth and fire. As uncomfortable as it may be, the sensitivity and introspection required of this time is necessary for your soul’s development
Thanks, Dawn, that’s very helpful. A great thing about astrology is providing clues as to why what worked in past isn’t working in the present, and what’s needed now. Of course, you have to be able to interpret those clues – so I really appreciate your insight here.
Which method of progressing the MC do you most like? True solar arc, Naibod, Naibod in Long., Simmonite, Placidus, or RAM
I use Naibod in Right Ascension, which is the default on astro.com. I have a very convincing argument for using Naibod in RA, which I go into in my progressions classes. Unfortunately, there isn’t space or time to go into it here.
Please can you say something about the progressed Sun shift from 29 Pisces into Aries?
The shift from Pisces to Aries is one of the most noticeable in progressions. Two entirely different energies–Pisces is all about the all and Aries is all about the “I”. When the Progressed Sun shifts between these two signs, there can be a feeling of stepping out from the shadows right on to a bright stage, and it can feel a bit frightening, almost intimidating at first. But a lot of people have a great feeling of liberation when this happens, as if they’ve waited all their lives for this moment, when they can begin to forge their own path and think about what they want, for a change. A lot of times there is a distinct surge of physical energy as well (the Sun is very happy in Aries), and great motivation to accomplish things. Some people, who are very used to the Pisces energy, can miss the sense of connectedness they used to have. But on the whole the move into Aries is usually a happy one for the Sun.
Thank you! this is full of encouragement and possibility. Much needed. x
Thank you for your blog just found it today, i was looking for a day for a month progression chart interpretation and the difference for the day to year and if the aspects pertain to only the month you do the chart for with the day to month progression. If i do the year I don’t see the grand trine but when i do the month I have a grand trine and does the three forecast still apply? for that event? Or only the month? I will continue to follow you insights thank you taking time for the beginner……
Hi, Thank you for such an interesting site. After approximately 38 years my progressed ascendant went from freedom loving Sag into Capricorn (along with progressed Moon!) Depression, worry and anxiety were just a few manifestations of this move and three years on (with Prog Moon now in Aquarius) I’m still feeling some of those effects. Its been a challenge to work through and I’d be interested to read comments from anyone else whose Prog Asc moved from Sag into Capricorn.
I think you might want to check your positions. The progressed Moon can only move one degree per month, so it would take it a long time to move from Sag to Aquarius–it spends about 2 and a half years in each sign. Also, the progressed Asc moves approximately one degree per year (this can alter depending on which method you use to progress the angles–I use the Naibod Arc in right ascension (as does astro.com).
Stumbled upon your blog post regarding Progressions and very glad i did . As a 70 yr. old i tend to look more at where i have been and now am in terms of life experience rather than where i am going . I do have confusion , however regarding emphasis given to progressed to natal vs progressed to progressed chart work ..
Hello, Alan–For many reasons I don’t have the time or space to go into here, I mainly work with progressed to progressed positions. Emphasis is on the Prog Sun/Prog Moon cycle and the Prog Moon/transiting Saturn cycle. The Prog to Prog positions show where we are right now in our spiritual development–what’s on the menu this year, what do we need to learn, what cycles are ending and/or beginning, and how to the transits affect them? I do check progressed to natal when progressed planets hit certain points in the natal chart, like the natal angles or the natal Sun and Moon. This is a huge question; I think I’m one of the few people to teach standalone interpretation of the progressed chart. I deal with this in Progressions One.
I agree it’s easy to be confused about progressed charts but they still fascinate.
I use solar charts and rarely look at progressed ! The solar tells you about your current year, so that’s very compelling.
But I get confused because a progressed chart tells about your current year too ! Auugghhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!
Ah, but the progressed chart tells you more than that–it reveals the current state of your developing consciousness over a lifetime. Solar return charts are event-oriented and dependent on transits. Progressed charts are about your evolution.
Dawn, thank you for your informative posts and to all the contributors as well. I have been looking deeply into progressions and find them fascinating. I agree they are extremely useful in looking at soul progression over time. I have a question regarding aspects. While I understand there is a great use to looking a
t the aspects of progressed to natal do you see any value to looking at aspects within the progressed itself? Does this help give a sense of current challenges or flow? Also, I use astro.com and I can see how to look at progressed with natal but I can’t seem to see how to find a chart that lists aspects between progressed and natal. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. Thanks!!
Aurora,
You’re asking a big question here. Frankly, aside from a few progressed to natal positions, I use a stand alone method of only interpreting progressed to progressed. While the natal chart is always referenced (you are the potential you were born from), where your progressed chart is is what matters. Moving progressed planets will hit both natal and progressed positions. When they hit the progressed position, they are more potent. Transits to the progressed chart, especially transits to progressed angles, are extremely important.
Hello Dawn, I’ve been lurking around for a while, all the while keeping this one little question in the back of my mind:
Could you say something about the progressed slower-moving planets changing signs? Would you say they’re as intensely felt as the progressed sun or moon entering a different sign, for instance?
Thank you so much and love your work.
Clara.
Absolutely. Think of it this way–it’s something you’ve waited your whole life for, a shift in consciousness for that particular planet. It also happens when an outer planet in progression changes direction. A major event. In either case, the change is so vast that you may not see it at first, but you will definitely feel the shift. Especially when it experiences transits or other faster-moving progressed planets.
Thank you for the info, Dawn. Had no idea about the change of directions by progression. Very interesting, indeed.
Keep up with the great work.
Clara.
If I am correct, isn’t the progressed chart based on adding a degree per year?
That just strikes me as completely arbitrary, and I find it a bit hard to swallow that it really means anything. Of course most of astrology is just as bizarre, but I know from experience that it works, and rings true.
Progressed stuff I can’t confirm at all with experience..yet.
And in that our natal charts are simply an imprint of the star scene at birth, wouldn’t it actually be more logical to say our progressed selves are just what is going on in the sky at any moment? 😉
This random choice of 1 degree per year just feels completely strange and arbitrary.
But…does it really work? In your experience?
Jeff, in my opinion, the progressed chart is crucial. You can’t do a proper reading without it. Unfortunately, most people don’t know how to read one well enough. It’s the natal chart brought on in time–where we are right now in terms of our spiritual growth. It isn’t arbitrary. One day for one year, if you see it in terms of the Sun and the Moon, has a deeply esoteric meaning. What I do find arbitrary is the Solar Arc chart, where everything in the chart is moved according to the current measurement of the Sun from the birth Sun. In my experience, Solar Arc charts are fairly useless.
Progressed charts are deeply felt. For example, a planet (say transiting Saturn) may make an aspect to a natal position first, but it isn’t until it hits the progressed position that the issues will be resolved. This is especially true of transits to the outer planets, which move only slightly by progression.
I get almost all of my clients coming to me when the progressed chart is in crisis–perhaps outer planets to an angle, or transiting Pluto over the progressed Sun. This is true of synastry as well, when the progressed composites have reached a crisis point. I have given a number of readings for people for whom there is not much happening in the natal chart, but the progressed chart is experiencing extreme pressure, which validates their experience. For me, that’s proof enough.
Hello Dawn! I found your blog while attempting to research progressions, and I am smitten with your work. Finding deep&nuanced, holistic interpretations on the web is not an easy task!
I found a confusing quirk that I was hoping you could help clarify? When I use astro.com to progress my own chart, my AC/DC moves about 1° per year. This rate is in agreement with every source I have come across. However, when I progress the charts of my Finnish friends, their AC/DC moves erratically, between 2-4° per year! Also the disproportionately large houses (60°) they have shrink and others blow out of proportion in their stead. I can’t find an explanation anywhere, though my hypothesis is that it might relate to the fact that Finland is so far north (60° latitude). If so, does living in a Nordic country alter your spiritual development significantly? I recently moved to Finland, so I’m curious if the same quirk will begin to effect me, or is it just those who are native born?
Thanks, Matthew. The reason that you’re getting the erratic movement is that the default house system at astro.com is Placidus. It’s also the only one I use. The method of Progressions Their default method of progression is Naiboc arc in RA, which is also the only one I use. Placidus will give you the giant houses, etc. Some people are disturbed by this, and run to another house system. I don’t think it’s necessary. Placidus is a very psychologically oriented house system, and the north countries have a very different psychological feel to them. My friends who are astrologers up there agree with me, although I believe they use the Koch system. If you’re going to use progressions, you have to choose a house system and a system of measuring the Sun. Astro and I choose Naibod in Right Ascension, as does most of Europe. America and Australia lean to the Solar Arc in Longitude. I do a whole class in these choices when I teach progressions one. What you choose will give you different results. As for moving–I only progress from the birthplace, so nothing changes. I don’t believe in progressing from a different place–you weren’t born in two places.
Hi Matthew,
Thanks for your kind words. The issue has to do with house system and the method one uses to measure the solar movement, in order for us to find angles. I use Placidus and the Naibod Arc in Right Ascension, which is default for astro and very common in Europe. In the states and in Australia, the Solar Arc in Longitude is popular. Many people are moving away from Placidus because of this problem of the houses in northern and southern latitude. It doesn’t bother me. You just have to understand why you are using the house method you are using. For me, Placidus is a deeply psychological method, very internal. Other house systems are more about externals. My friends in the North countries who are astrologers usually use Koch, which is similar to Placidus but not as extreme with the measurements. I’ve heard my northern astrologer friends say that the north is a deeply interiorized place, and the large houses are a better fit. I think it will affect your development; the light alone must affect a person. But as far as progressions are concerned, I only progress from the birthplace. I don’t see the sense in progressing from somewhere else–you weren’t born in two places.
I am 30 now..it has been intense the last 3 years~many changes…trying to see the “adventure in it all”… to say the least….is there anything you can share about my Natal chart:
..Leo 27 degrees Rise, Sag Sun 5th house, Moon Aries 8th house, Capricorn Neptune in 5th house too. Aquarius Jupiter in the 6th house, and A stellium in my 4th houses in SAG, Uranus, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn. North Node in 9th house in Taurus.
I’m trying to just take it slow, take it easy…and just really looking within and connect to the divine as much as possible.
Progressed charts are fascinating to me….I’m going on my 31st Birthday December 19th, 2016. So…yeah…things are just slightly differed from my original NATAL chart…”born again”….this transition is quite challenging much like “giving birth” also known as “labor”.
Any words would be appreciated, LOVE me my Virgo Friends:) Happy Birthday too btw!
Hi dawn ,
Maybe you can help my confusion:
I have a 0 aries ascendant- so now acording to one degree per year- i should have a 19taurus progressed ascendant.
Yet astro com and sites of that sort claim that my progressed ascendant is 12 gemini.
How can that be true??..
When i tell astrlogers that i relocated from my birth country- they claim that my progreessed ascendant is 28 virgo.
This is what is confusing.
Who do i believe???? Which do i follow?
My life is at shambeles now- and i do want to get things back
To positive energy- but i don’t have a clue which progressed chart is the true chart…
Could you kindly point to the right direction??
Thank you ….
The angles are not progressed at one degree per year, but at the measurement between the natal Sun and the progressed Sun. There are four ways of measuring the Sun, but this is too complicated to get into here. The standard in most of the world is using the Naibod Arc measurement in Right Ascension–this is what astrodienst uses. In America and Australia it is common to use the Solar Arc measurement in Longitude. If astrodienst is giving you 12 Gemini, this is accurate. I myself use the Naibod Arc in RA. Many astrologers are not aware that there are different ways of measuring the arc, nor do they know that the Sun moves more quickly at certain times of the year.
For my part, I never relocate progresssions. I think it’s illogical.
Thank you Dawn for clearing this up for me!!!
much appreciated 🙂
love your site and wisdom.
best wishes love and light!
….by the way: which house system is best to use?
which do you use? equal or placidus?…
thank you!
Which house system to use is a very personal thing–I use placidus exclusively, because I feel it’s more interior/psychologically oriented.
I’m a Pisces who’s ascended into Aries territory at about age 8-9 I definitely agree with what you said about the sub’s progression into Aries the overwhelming feeling yet the liberation, would you compare the progression to being born on a cusp?
I suppose it has some common themes, but in the natal it’s a constant work to find ground and in the progression it’s more of a celebration or life event. It’s a threshold crossed. But I suppose with the cusp it is always reaching out to the new sign.
Hi Dawn,
I very much appreciate your informative blog. I have long been wondering whether there might be 2 different Secondary Progression charts applicable to people who moved FAR away from their place of birth. In my case, I was born in Germany, lived in many different countries and have now lived for 25 years in California.
Thank you so very much for all the wonderful – and patient – advise you give to the people interested in astrology. I will definitely buy your book on Secondary Progressions. Ursela
No, I stand my ground. Only the natal place is viable for progressions. You are progressing the contents of the natal chart as the soul comes into this world, no matter where you live. I understand using the local place for returns, but not progressions.
Hi Dawn,
Thank you for such a wonderful article, it got me thinking about the angles. May I ask a question about angles. I have progressed sun about to hit my natal MC and at the same time that transit Uranus will be crossing my natal IC and transit Saturn will be crossing my AC – is this significant? I imagine so, but do not see anything coming up that could happen in the next two weeks when all this is expected to take place. How long will the effects of all these be active for? Thank you again for sharing !
Saturn is asking you both to grow up and to become authentic. It wants you to master yourself, define yourself. This configuration implies that change is needed regarding the MC/IC axis–either a change of a job to involve you in something that truly matters to you, or a shift/move in your home life that will allow you the freedom that you need to make progress. It won’t happen all at once. You’ll have to wait for things to fall into place, possibly with another transit of the Sun or Mars. Transiting Uranus over the progressed Sun is looking for long term change.
Hello Dawn
I thought I had posted a query yesterday only to look this morning and can’t seem to find it. Here goes …..
Last year my progressed AC/DC and MC/IC changed signs to 1 degree Lib/Ari and Can/Cap and my progressed Sun changed to 1 Virgo. This year my progressed Moon will be changing signs to my natal Aries sign in a month or so. My progressed North Node will also be changing signs from 1 deg Can to 29 Gem around the same time.
I see that the theme here is change …. but are these conscious changes I have to make or is it a matter of accepting the change which will be thrust upon me. Not sure how to navigate all this but in the last 2 years or so I have noticed I feel like a fish out of water doubting everything and how I am doing life.
I would very much welcome your expert advice/steer on this. Do I need a personal reading for clarity?
Thanks very much.
Despite the fact that I read astrology for about three years now, and equally have been studying every trivial and major transits to my chart, I’m still unconvinced that transits can be felt the way many astrologers explain it (whether you call it daily, weekly, or monthly horoscopes). I even tried to go back through my past times and looked the then transits (choosing the exact days I remember or have evidence), nothing happened.
Lately, however, I have been exposed to the concept of progression and started to consider it as much better than transit in my reality. Therefore, focusing on procession, I started studying both the past and present of my and other people’s secondary progression. Meanwhile, I remembered an instance of past time when one of my family members got mad for almost a year following an indisposed divorce. I remember he usually used to fight with every man who saw him talking with his ex-wife. He became awfully notorious to the extent that everybody felt sad about him. I just looked at his progressed chart for that specific time and noticed astonishing result. His progressed Venus at Scorpio was squaring his progressed Mars in Leo (which is his 8th), and even worse, Mars was conjunct to his 8th house natal Pluto. Basically, the progressed Venus was squaring Pluto too. That is just one case in point … I started to observe a lot and love it.
I am now interested more. I will have New Moon (in progression) soon — within less than a year. Would you mind telling us something about Progressed New Moon in another piece? That will be helpful and thrilling for the people like me if you write something about it. Thanks!
I will write about it, especially since I’m having one myself on the 18th of November.
If in the progressed chart the nodes change sign when compared to the natal chart, is there any need for interpretation?
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the comments… what is the difference between progressions and secondary progressions?
Hi Dawn,
I’m trying to understand how the progressed moon is calculated.
My natal moon is at 10 degrees Scorpio in my 9th house, my progressed moon is at 14 degrees Gemini in my 4th house.
I’ve calculated that as a difference if
Of 214 degrees is I dine that count correctly. I’ve played with the math,
In various ways, including
One degree a month and 214 as a fraction of 360, assuming 360 represents about 90 yrs. But I and can’t figure out how to approximate my current age about 71.5 born 04//14/1949. This may be due to the progression of the angles?
This may be too complex to address here?
I’m wondering if you are offering
Another class on progressions.
I love to get a grasp on placement mechanisms.
Thanks! I found your comments very interesting and helpful!
Linda Williams
Hello. I wanted to ask and know which aspects are more potent. Progressed to natal aspects or Progressed to Progressed aspects