Chiron Beyond the Wound: A Brief Cookbook

Chiron Beyond the Wound: A Brief Cookbook

Dawn Bodrogi March 16, 2016

Chiron: The following is a cookbook description of Chiron contacts with the personal planets in relationship. It is an edited excerpt from my upcoming book on Chiron in synastry,  Chiron: Beyond the Wound:  

Chiron : Beyond the wound

Chiron always weaves a spell in the beginning.  Unlike the spell of Neptune, which is the promise of forever love and effortless spiritual partnership, the Chiron spell is more about the promise of healing.  “This is what you’ve always needed,” it whispers in our ear.  Need being the operative word.  “I don’t care if it hurts,” you say, “something is happening here.  I feel myself becoming myself.”  Well, maybe.  At first.  Before the real stuff kicks in.

I’ve seen relationships with a lot of Chiron last for decades.  It hurts, but we don’t let go because of the promise of wholeness and healing.  We dig in.  We become convinced that this is a one and only thing–no one else can make me feel this way.  So we hang on for dear life.  This is also true of those with Chiron on angles, either conjunct the Descendant in the natal chart or between charts.  There is a (potentially exhausting) pull about the whole thing.  Unlike Pluto, which pries our fingers of whatever we are trying to hold on to that doesn’t suit our progress, the Chiron clinging is often about denial–denial of who we really are, and the wise person we can be.  This can be a glue more sticky than Saturn. We are, all of us whether we consciously know it or not, hungry for knowledge and meaning.

There’s the rub with Chiron–the potential for wisdom.  I think Chiron is very cagey about this, he doesn’t show his cards.  We may never realize that we are obsessed with this particular ‘other’ because we want to learn some very deep lessons.  We want to learn from this relationship, to become the wise healer ourselves.

Eventually, we do walk away from Chiron.  We do learn.  Sometimes we say, “Never again.”  But most of the time we walk away with our heads held high, filled with a renewed sense of wisdom about the ways of the world.  We learn that we sacrificed the old self/life for the new, and like Chiron, have been elevated because of it.

Chiron/Sun:  The Chiron person can feel as if he or she is touching the king’s robe in order to be healed, and may feel at the mercy of the solar light, even though it is warm and inviting at first.  Chiron will usually bask in the solar presence, possibly becoming dependent upon it at the expense of its own individual development.  The Sun may feel this dependence and resent it.  It also may feel that Chiron is more powerful than it purports to be and may be there to usurp the Sun’s throne.  Trust can be an issue.  There can be a great deal of healing for both parties as long as they individuate on their own path.  Ego is often at stake, with the Sun feeling cramped and restricted by Chiron’s insistence on healing and probing the depths of the relationship.  The Sun wants to breathe and play and eventually, it will–usually without Chiron.  The only answer is to acknowledge one another’s power, to let the Sun shine and allow Chiron to use its hard won wisdom.

Chiron/Moon:  With Chiron/Moon there is almost always the deep bond of sexual healing.  Chiron, when motivated, is a highly sexual thing, the half-man, half-beast of the centaur personified.  Unlike Chiron/Mars, which is rather one-pointed (no pun intended) Chiron/Moon is a more all-encompassing contact, with body, mind and spirit all united in the sexuality of the couple.  This weaves an intense, difficult to shake spell of its own.  Chiron is broken and hungry–the Moon nurtures, the Moon fulfills, the Moon spreads salve on whatever and wherever Chiron aches.  The ‘other’ becomes ‘the answer.’  The Moon itself is hungry.  It becomes addicted to the psycho-spiritual give and take, the breathing out and breathing in on an emotional and spiritual level.  How painful, then, when the rose is discovered to have thorns.  The problem begins outside of the bedroom, especially when the intimacy of the couple is violated in some way.  There may be a series of betrayals, with each running roughshod over the other’s acute sensibility.  One, or both, feel violated as if the trust of the bond has been betrayed.  Intimate and cozy may become suffocating, most likely because vulnerability is a difficult state to maintain.  We feel open and exposed; Chiron feels its wound is on display, the Moon that it is robbed of its spiritual sustenance and sent off to slaughter.  As always with Chiron contacts, there is a secret fear and resentment of Chiron’s power, and a need to escape.  The best way to maintain this kind of relationship is to be brave and face the mutual intimacy and exposure.  The relationship will grow stronger because of it.

Chiron/Mercury:  This is one of the less problematic of the Chiron pairings, unless Mercury is extremely prominent in the natal chart or there is an educational gap or insecurity between the two.  Chiron works better with a partnership of equals.  Because Mercury and Jupiter are about learning and teaching, and Chiron is a natural teacher, the course can run smooth.  Both Chiron and Mercury can take turns being the student and the teacher. However, if this is one of those teacher/student bondings, where one partner is (or expects to be) the wise one and the other the eager student, it can go very wrong.  Oddly, I’ve often seen this contact in couples who have a large age gap.  The elder partner expects to play the wise one, and is then dismayed when the younger partner turns out to have more learning and life experience.  With this contact, there can be a lot of pain surrounding not only education, but life skills.  One partner can resent the other’s creativity, for example, or facility with concepts.  Chiron can cause the Mercury person to feel inadequate intellectually, or unable to communicate clearly and effectively.  Mercury may dance circles around Chiron, making Chiron feel tired in comparison.  It depends on the placement of Chiron in sign and house.

Chiron/Venus:  One of the more poetic contacts in synastry.  When there is a Venus/Chiron contact in a natal chart, the person usually has a great love for life in all its glory and its sadness, for the beauty as well as the broken.  In fact, it may prefer the broken, feeling there is honesty and poetry in life’s limitations.  In Chiron/Venus synastry, both Chiron and Venus may be more attracted to the faults of the other than the strengths.  “I love you because you’re broken.”  Instantly, we can see how this can get complicated.  “If you love me for my brokenness, how am I supposed to heal?  If I heal, I lose you.”  Sometimes, both parties would rather stay broken than risk loss and independence. As always with Venus, issues of self-esteem run large.  Venus may feel criticized for the way it expresses its love.  Chiron may love Venus intensely, but Venus may not feel it, because Chiron is not speaking Venus’s ‘love language.’  Chiron may feel that Venus is glorious, but when it begins to feel healed via the relationship, fear may set in.  Chiron may hold itself back, much the way Chiron stabs himself with his own poisoned arrow (according to one version of the story).  No matter the planet it touches, Chiron will often hold itself back, rather than cross the threshold into self-healing and the responsibility that carries.

Chiron/Mars:  The key aspect of sexual healing.  Whether the contact is difficult or whether it runs smooth, much is expected of both parties. Chiron/Mars is where need meets desire.  Deep transformation via sexual exchange is possible, as well as the healing of any sexual wounding.  Chiron/Mars can add desperation to desire.  Chiron feels its sense of being broken can be ended via the Mars energy.  It finds that Mars builds its confidence, and as a reward Chiron, at first, encourages Mars.  If there is anything broken about the Mars (if it is in hard aspect in the natal chart with one of the outer planets or Saturn, for example) Chiron will sense that and instinctively try to heal it.  However, in the passage of time (and Time is the keyword here; much depends on the maturity of the participants) Mars may feel that Chiron is drawing it down.  Sometimes Mars feels that Chiron is draining Mars when Mars wants to move forward and explore.  Mars’ nature is to move outward, and the Chiron energy is decidedly inward.  Worse, Mars can feel inferior to Chiron and renege on the initial, implied promise of renewal.  Chiron can cause Mars to feel as if it must move away from Chiron’s influence.  If Chiron can take responsibility for its own healing, without depending on Mars, both parties can enjoy the independence and the intimacy as well.

Chiron/Jupiter:  When Chiron hits Jupiter in another’s chart, what begins as generosity and a learning experience can turn into dejection.  Jupiter never likes the balloon to burst, and Chiron runs around with a lot of pins (arrows) in his pocket.  Chiron often doesn’t mean it. Which is true of all these Chiron positions–we know not what we do where he is concerned.  In fact, we may feel as if we are the oppressed party. But where Jupiter/Chiron is concerned, often the balloon is pricked, the bubble bursts, and the flame goes out, often baffling both people involved.  “But it was so good,”  we say.  “What happened?”  This is usually quite simple; Jupiter can resent Chiron’s power and wisdom (without realizing what is going on, due to its sunny nature), and Chiron doesn’t understand how the tables have turned.  Jupiter turns away and Chiron wonders where it has wandered.  Chiron can be as oppressive as Saturn when it comes down to it, and Jupiter has a hard time being followed by such a downer.  Chiron demands meaning and intensity in relationship–even the most wise of Jupiters can feel oppressed and boxed in, and may need to let go.  Then Chiron is left to wonder where all the balloons went.

Chiron/Saturn:  This can be one of the more painful, or one of the more rewarding, contacts between charts.  Although they are at odds, Chiron and Saturn understand one another.  There is an element of ‘greater good’ in both of them, the need to focus on what’s best for all concerned (People often lose that interpretation of Saturn, which is based on its rulership of Aquarius).  This works better when a couple is older and more in tune with Saturn’s possibilities.  Chiron, over time, becomes less about the wound and more about legacy–what wisdom have we learned that we wish to pass on to others?  Both Chiron and Saturn know that where our greatest pain lies, our greatest wisdom lies.  Saturn turns our limitations into our successes.  Chiron knows how to translate achievement into meaning.  If less mature, Saturn can stop Chiron from discovering the meaning of its wounding, rendering its life purposeless.  Life loses magic and mystery, which Chiron craves.  Chiron can make Saturn think that it isn’t as competent as it once thought.

Chiron and the Outer Planets:

Contacts between Chiron and the Outer Planets in synastry are not usually felt in the same way as they are to personal planets.  When one’s Chiron hits another’s Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, it takes a back seat to the action between Chiron and whatever it hits of the personal planets.  Higher and lower octaves matter a great deal here.  If Chiron is hitting Mercury and making an aspect to Uranus at the same time, it may trigger great gifts of telepathy, mind and learning.  If it hits Venus as well as Neptune, there may be the gift of forgiveness in the relationship, and understanding may be paramount.  If Mars and Pluto are both contacted, there is a healing, integrative energy awakened in both parties.  No matter if it is a hard or soft aspect, the power of the outer planet usually adds to the configuration.  If the personal planet receives a hard aspect from Chiron, the struggles will be there, but also the redemption and ability to connect that comes when the Outer Planets are used wisely. Chiron’s role as the deliverer of the higher knowledge of the Outer Planets is enhanced.

To read another excerpt from Chiron Beyond the Wound, click HERE.

20 thoughts on “Chiron Beyond the Wound: A Brief Cookbook

  1. Dawn, such a great article! So accurate, almost scary. I am with my partner are having very strong Chiron synastry. I have natal Sun conjunction Moon in Taurus and my partner’s Chiron conjuncts my Sun 0’00 degree and my Moon 2 degree.
    Also my Chiron is squaring his Venus and opposition to his Saturn.
    What you have said in any of this aspect – every word in your description are absolutely correct.
    We are now 10 years together, – love at first sight…So i can look back now…
    To be frank, there were moments we were loosing each other completely, it was on the ‘edge’. I lived myself always in a way you can describe ‘in the state – on the ‘edge’ until i have met him. Although i lived on the ‘edge’ i was very independent and did fine. And nobody knew that deep inside i was drowning. He felt it and saved me spiritually.

    I am Taurus, so very grounded mysel. He depended on that, but did not want to learn himself, i had to push him. His Venus in Capricorn felt like he was not loved, like he was told what to do and no way he could allow it….
    I can go go on and on…My conclusion is thank’s to your article, that Chiron saved us individually and as a couple, because we both since childhood were dreaming about ‘the one’ ( he and me we also have very strong Neptunian synastry). We had to dive deep to reach each other, almost drowned, managed ourselves and got out stronger.
    I can add, that i do know now, it seems almost a miracle that we ‘made’ it. Also the beautiful part is, when you are, we are ‘there’ – in the spot of beauty, i do realize, it could not be otherwise ,- me and him, us together. All that life we spent together, – i am so grateful, thank’s to Chiron. Me and my partner we would not be like we are right now individually and as a couple without his teachings.

    I have one question. Could it be, that Chiron also has to do with animals? Me and my partner had few teachers – few cats. They taught us great stuff, supported us, loved us when we were at the ‘bottom’. I feel like it has to do with Chiron, his greatest, the most kind and generous gifts – animals as teachers. I feel very blessed by cats. What do you think?

    Thank you, Dawn for your enlightenment again!

    1. Remember that Chiron, as a centaur, was half animal. He helps us get in touch with our own animal nature. Chiron is also a shaman in that he crosses thresholds to gain experience. This kind of cross-breed (human, cat) wisdom is certainly part of his realm.

  2. Hello Dawn! I really enjoy your articles, it feels like digging to the bottom of things. I am very interested in Chiron, maybe because I have him sextiling my Gemini stellium of Sun, Mercury and Venus in natal. It also presents its self as a reoccurring theme in my relationships. That’s why I would like to ask your opinion on Chiron in the composite. Of course the whole chart has to be taken into account but how are Chiron’s dynamics different in a composite compared to synastry. I am particularly interested in Sun conjunct Chiron. Does it play a particularly similar role in composite as it plays in synastry the way you described in your article? Or have you noticed that it plays out differently?

    1. Chiron in composite is a mutual Chiron. It’s the one thing a couple can’t do together. Or it’s the one area of wisdom they both share. For example, a simple example is Chiron in the second = lack of finances. Chiron in the 8th = trouble with intimacy.

      1. This is such an amazing blog Dawn. Thank you! I also had a question about Chiron in composite. What are the implications of it conjunct the Composite ascendant (Taurus) opposite Uranus descendant in (Scorpio)?

  3. Your description is so accurate. I started this ‘relationship’ while Chiron was transiting my descendant/his sun and Jupiter was conjunct my Venus/trining his Chiron. I don’t feel very chironic (I only hAve a Chrion/Jupiter opposition = masochism?, but it’s hard to tell since i have a Pluto/moon/Saturn conjunction) but I think he really is: Chrion conjuncts mercury, opposes Uranus/Juno conjunction. My Juno sits on his Chiron, trining my Venus and Chiron is conjunct his Saturn, trine his Pluto (all 1 deg orb). The funny thing is that our Davison chart is so chironic that happens to coincide with the day Chiron was discovered: Pluto,venus,North node,asc super tight conjunction. I really felt what you wrote, i felt everything I could reach in life was depending on having him. Two years on/off seesaw flame (off again since a month) and one direction love, mine.

  4. Hi Dawn, excellent article. My question is, when the chiron contact in synastry is sextile or trine, does the chances of healing increase as opposed to feeling pain forever? Or how does it work? For example, my chiron is trine my ex’s moon, he felt the most pain in our association, but would he have also been able to find healing? Thanks.

  5. You said that when Chiron touched a planet it will vibrate is higher frequency, what is the higher octave of moon? I have Chiron square moon where Chiron is my first house Taurus. This has been my problem. BTW, moon is 11th house. Aqua

  6. So sorry I didn`t come across your blog earlier, appreciate every insight. I would truly like to learn more about Chiron contacts to the angles, especially Chiron conj. Descendant.

  7. Hello.. thanks a lot it describes accurately the situation.. i was searching about a very intense relationship.. with someone with whom I have my south node exactly conjunct his moon,and I noticed that his chiron in taurus exactly in 0 degrees opposes my moon in scorpio and exacltly conjunct my taurus mars.. so I guess there is something there.. indeed.. thank you it was quite enlightening

  8. Hi, VERY interesting read!
    Just one question: what if ALL of the men’s planets (personal as well as outer planets) hit the woman’s Chiron, except his Sun? Would the healing benefits of the outer planets still show or would it just be a mess?

  9. If his Jupiter is in fall in capricorn on 3 degree conjunct her chiron with 0 degree orb and his age is 17 years bigger than her , would make this aspect taken separated a more enjoyable result?

  10. Great article, thanks!!!
    One thing tho, when very insightful astrologers like yourself to a good extent, disregard outer planets I feel you’re leaving a vast majority of people outside a core group. I have Pluto on my ascendant(Scorpio) trine sun/Chiron conjunction, opposite moon(exact) and square Mars. I also have Saturn Neptune Uranus conjunction opposite my sun/Chiron conjunction and sextiles my moon so when anything touches these outer planets someone like me will feel it a lot. So not detailing out how they work because they’re outer planets is showing people like me, half the puzzle. This is what I think tho. I might be wrong. But I’m using my chart and experiences and I can personally say those outer planets are very important, even more important when they are prominent in a chart because it’s like the energy of an entire collective is constantly pulling you at all times.

  11. Hello Dawn! Amazing article. Thank you for this.

    Quick question — how would you interpret venus conjunct chiron conjunct the descendant in a composite chart? I feel like I may have either met the greatest love (or greatest heartbreak) in my life.

    Any insight is sincerely appreciated.

    Thank you so much!

    – Jenna

  12. I have tight 0 degree conjunction of my Mercury with his Chiron in Cancer

    Also 0 degeee conjunction of his Jupiter on my Sun in Cancer

    Also 0 degree conjunction of his Eros on my Mars in Scorpio

    His Pluto and my Saturn are also in Scorpio but not as close. My Pluto/ASC the conjunct his Venus/Mercury in Libra but not as close.

    The problem is he is my doctor and what we are doing is unprofessional. I do feel he is a good person and sincerely wants to help me. But it is full blown sexual during the exams (i am pregnant) and he keeps saying he has to stop. But he’s not stopping. It is fun because he feels like an old friend and he is very kind and humble. I don’t feel like he is a pervert or looking to prey on his patients, and i believe him this hasn’t happened to him before. It is painful at the same time. I don’t want go be begging for him which is what I ended up doing last appt and he tells me he can’t. But he called me from his personal cell phone so if I wanted to pursue texting him I could. I just don’t want to chase him since it seems like he is probably not interested in a relationship obviously since I am pregnant I am not the most desirable person to start a relationship with my problems. I decided I can’t go back to my appointments and I thoight i would message him to let him know and leave it in a nice note?

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